FG.LAB to reject deal bring down government?

king5494

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Yes this is the headline we'd love to see in the morning and if they are really against this rotten deal then they should canvas all TDs to support a no confidence motion and renegotiate this deal and stop bloody waffling on as if they are going to do something.

Never mind Europe .look after ourselves first.

Will they do it?.
 


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Yes this is the headline we'd love to see in the morning and if they are really against this rotten deal then they should canvas all TDs to support a no confidence motion and renegotiate this deal and stop bloody waffling on as if they are going to do something.

Never mind Europe .look after ourselves first.

Will they do it?.
Government still has a majority (probably)
 

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What deal would FG and Labour get?

Are they going to collapse the deal and then go in and get worse terms thereby making themselves the focus of public anger? On top of looking forward to a poisoned chalice handed to them from FF?
 
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What deal would FG and Labour get?

Are they going to collapse the deal and then go in and get worse terms thereby making themselves the focus of public anger? On top of looking forward to a poisoned chalice handed to them from FF?
The only way they can manage this is to make sure they don´t bring down the government until the budget is safely passed. They´ll huff and they´ll puff and they´ll spin for all they´re worth - but they won´t get in the way of letting FF do the dirty work that they would have to do themselves a month later.
 

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Both parties have said "they have sold us out" why don't they do this and actually lay the groundwork for a new deal and burn the banks bonholders.

The election is in a few weeks now and they could get more support than normal as it's every man for himself within the Greens and FF
 

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we are where we are guys and the people can do nothing about it we put them in to goverment. and they will be get back in 2015
 

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What deal would FG and Labour get?

Are they going to collapse the deal and then go in and get worse terms thereby making themselves the focus of public anger? On top of looking forward to a poisoned chalice handed to them from FF?
Europe should have been told, give us 2% on the loan or we are going to default on everything and destroy the euro and make bits of every economy in Europe. FG and Labour can still, after they get into office, threaten to do the same unless the terms are renegotiated.
 

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What deal would FG and Labour get?

Are they going to collapse the deal and then go in and get worse terms thereby making themselves the focus of public anger? On top of looking forward to a poisoned chalice handed to them from FF?

Any party that supports this deal or stands by and lets it happen should be the target of public anger and viewed as the traitors that they are.

Supporting this deal and or doing everything possible to kill the deal is the dividing line between those who serve foreign interests and those who serve the Irish people.

The lines are clearly drawn.

Those who snipe on the sidelines but fail to put themselves on the battle front to stop the deal are supporting the deal.
 

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Here's the Deal Mr. Trichet. The ECB takes a 50% haircut on behalf of the senior b'holders if you don't want them being burned entirely by Ireland. In addition we want 2% on the whole bailout or we'll go to the IMF at 3% and default on every Fu(king thing. Your shot Mr. Trichet.
 

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Europe should have been told, give us 2% on the loan or we are going to default on everything and destroy the euro and make bits of every economy in Europe. FG and Labour can still, after they get into office, threaten to do the same unless the terms are renegotiated.
The problem is - we don't want to do that. We are as screwed as everyone else by that (in fact, we are worse off - the worse off our larger neighbours are).

The analogies of a game of poker may or may not be valid, but we neither have a strong position for a convincing bluff, nor a good enough hand to call.
 

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What's the position now on the majority if Rea and lowry don't support Government?
 

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Europe should have been told, give us 2% on the loan or we are going to default on everything and destroy the euro and make bits of every economy in Europe. FG and Labour can still, after they get into office, threaten to do the same unless the terms are renegotiated.
Hilarious :D

Tell them we'd make dust out of the euro if they didn't loan to us on our terms.
 

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Here's the Deal Mr. Trichet. The ECB takes a 50% haircut on behalf of the senior b'holders if you don't want them being burned entirely by Ireland. In addition we want 2% on the whole bailout or we'll go to the IMF at 3% and default on every Fu(king thing. Your shot Mr. Trichet.
+1....
 

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Hilarious :D

Tell them we'd make dust out of the euro if they didn't loan to us on our terms.
We are holding a massive economic-nuclear bomb. Yes setting it off would cause years of hardship to us as well s everybody, but not setting it off and signing this 'deal' will destroy us alone.

If we defaulted on everything then yes, the euro would be destroyed.
 

king5494

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Why dont FG/LAB/SF/IND with 80 seats +rae / lowry = 82 v80 and bring down Gov now and end all this bull.
 

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was at David McWilliam's "Outsiders" in Cork tonight
he was very clear when answering an audience question about who to vote for in next election.
he said not to vote for any party that supports this bailout deal. only support parties that will default on the anglo bondholders
 

king5494

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Why Don't FG/LAB/SF/IND TAKE DOWN GOVERMENT NOW?

With the support of Rae/Lowry the opposition could muster up 82 v 80 if i'm right so why won't they do it ?.

If the're so against this why won't they just get on with getting rid of them and can they risk the electorate copping on to their posturing and bull?.
 

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the first five words of your post shows the flaw in your argument.
 


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