FG.LAB to reject deal bring down government?

ItsLehmansWotDoneIt

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Here's the Deal Mr. Trichet. The ECB takes a 50% haircut on behalf of the senior b'holders if you don't want them being burned entirely by Ireland. In addition we want 2% on the whole bailout or we'll go to the IMF at 3% and default on every Fu(king thing. Your shot Mr. Trichet.
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Don't often find myself in the same camp as LeDroit, but absolutely spot on. I'd add that we force the ECB to take the Irish Banks into its ownership in a debt for equity swap for the £100bn they have provided in liquidity.
I refuse to vote for any party that supports putting another cent of Irish taxpayers money into recapitalisating the Irish banks. I count 4 recaps so far. One was enough.
 


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was at David McWilliam's "Outsiders" in Cork tonight
he was very clear when answering an audience question about who to vote for in next election.

he said not to vote for any party that supports this bailout deal.

only support parties that will default on the anglo bondholders
Yes, it was a very clear and necessary message - we cannot accept this deal. We have to support candidates who commit to repudiate it.

Varadkar on TWIP is only saying he will 'seek to renegotiate' it. Too weak.
 

kerdasi amaq

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Actually, the Grim Reaper is the only one who can take down this rotten government.
 

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Those parties should be outside the gates of Leinster House leading their supporters in a campaign to bring this administration to its knees.
 

king5494

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I'm sure Rae Lowry know this deal is going to have a terrible impact on their constituencies so could they not have common sense with an election in a few weeks anyway.
 

ItsLehmansWotDoneIt

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Originally Posted by bprob
was at David McWilliam's "Outsiders" in Cork tonight
he was very clear when answering an audience question about who to vote for in next election.

he said not to vote for any party that supports this bailout deal.

only support parties that will default on the anglo bondholders
Yes, it was a very clear and necessary message - we cannot accept this deal. We have to support candidates who commit to repudiate it.

Varadkar on TWIP is only saying he will 'seek to renegotiate' it. Too weak.
On Newstalk's The Dunphy Show this morning, Varadkar was all for burning senior bondholders - that was obviously before he heard the terms of the deal. Olli and friends have set their face against any senior bondholders suffering losses. Lets see Leo stick to his guns now.
 

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Varadkar on TWIP is only saying he will 'seek to renegotiate' it. Too weak.
shockingly weak i thought.
varadkar of all people! he's never a man for half-hearted statements. if he isn't strongly against it, the FG party is definitely looking at partly backing the deal at least
 

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So if we turn down the deal (which basically funds our deficit for the next few years - ir 50bn of the bailout if to pay for our deficit's) then please tell me how we avoid taking 20bn out of the economy this year when no-one will lend us anything?????
 

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Fianna Fail has brought us to the bottom of the pit in disgrace,.Once those gentleman
walked into the Dept of Finance, we had a new boss,. someone else now has to lead us
out of the pit. We have to move on under their guidance.
 

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Being Blunt, Fine Gael and Labour don't have the GUTS to call for a vote of no confidence in the Taoiseach. They just don't have the balls!! Let FF pass the budget and then they can blame them for all the cuts.

GET ON WITH IT. THROW THESE TRAITORS OUT AND GIVE US SOME HOPE!
 

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Well gentlemen the steps for this Dance are in motion and partners have been chosen and like the parish hall dances of old there are rules to this dance the one and only rule applies here the no touch rule you can talk the dance to death if you want but it will still be the only dance in town . FG and Labour have accepted this so now they wait and must be patient there chance to hold hands with the money men will come soon enough in truth no matter how much is spoken of defaults and the like which is all for domestic consumption
Both parties know there is only only one dance partner on the floor
 

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Merged identical threads on the same topic by the same OPer.
 

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There will be do Dail vote on this deal so the opposition won't get an opportunity to reject. They will however have to reject the budget or they will have to fight the GE with 1 hand tied behind their backs. FF never heard of the national interest until their backs were against the wall.
 

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For all the talk and promises of an election campaign, there will no renegotiation or rejection of this deal.There might be a few changes here and there. But the most important part (ie the interest rate) will be unaffected. The only think that can save us is if the situation in Spain(too big to bail out) worsens , thereby forcing the EU to adopt a new strategy.Hopefully including a serious amount of quantitive easing and debt restructuring
 
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We are holding a massive economic-nuclear bomb. Yes setting it off would cause years of hardship to us as well s everybody, but not setting it off and signing this 'deal' will destroy us alone.

If we defaulted on everything then yes, the euro would be destroyed.
So we have elected just to destroy ourselves!
 

Desperate Dan

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Have they Balls to do it.
 


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