FG Men out of control?

Emily Davison

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I dont know PJ and I would like to know this. From British experience, we know that accusations of sexist bullying (and a good deal worse) can arise in all parties - the difference tends to be their response to them. In NI, the DUP, despite the fact that it has a female leader is notorious for allegations of bullying and threatening female councillors of their own party and others. They have few female MLAs. At one point, SF MLAs at Stormont had a sort of "Praetorian guard" of tough Republicans like Gerry Kelly to give the DUP the stink-eye if they started mocking or harrassing female SF representatives.

I am not aware of allegations of sexist bullying in SF. One remarkable thing that party did was to set up mentoring for female members with aspirations to public office, in which they were partnered or buddied with senior female members. This strikes me as a very good idea.

Well fair play to SF. They clearly saw an issue and dealt with it. But it doesn't deal with the root cause. The thinking, the actions, the behaviour.
 


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I mean the concept introduced into this debate by statsman.

I'm not sure what part of that answer you have difficulty understanding.

But, then again, given that it's yourself, you probably have great difficulty understanding most things.

(Oh, and before you get your knickers in a twist, I'm making that point because of your limited capacity. Not because your a woman.)
You once again refuse to make any point on the subject matter of this thread.

No idea what you feel a woman has done to you to make you hate us, but based on your posts, well, there we are.
 

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And in your quoted posts, you'll see the specific issue of bullying in SF has been addressed in a dedicated thread. This one is about FG. and of course, as always, thank you for validating the OP. (If you are in fact aware that that is what you're doing :) )

32 :)
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indeed, as witnessed by our Taoiseach's dismissive attitude when dealing with MLMCD
I want to know if FG actually has a policy on bullying and gender discrimination in their ranks, and clear mechanisms for both making a complaint and dealing with it. I am not satisfied with vague waffling about treating all party members with respect.

In private businesses and the public sector, or any voluntary organisation, the absence of one, or having one which is not adequate, will be regarded in law as evidence of liability for creating a hostile environment.
 

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So 160 posts in and thirty of these posts don't address the issue and are either attacking SF or the OP. almost one in five.

Pathetic.
On how many threads involving personalities in Slabs Frenz have you addressed the issue in the OP ?
 

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On how many threads involving personalities in Slabs Frenz have you addressed the issue in the OP ?
All of them that I've contributed to. 34. It's noted that you will not address the issue of misogyny and bullying in FG. Pathetic.
 

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Do FG have a thug element of "men out of control" going around with baseball bats, iron bars, etc... to keep everybody in "control" ?
They do. But they're called bankers, more effective than baseball bats. Can cause more damage with less effort.
 

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I want to know if FG actually has a policy on bullying and gender discrimination in their ranks, and clear mechanisms for both making a complaint and dealing with it. I am not satisfied with vague waffling about treating all party members with respect.

In private businesses and the public sector, or any voluntary organisation, the absence of one, or having one which is not adequate, will be regarded in law as evidence of liability for creating a hostile environment.
Jeez I would have just assumed they have a policy. Do they not. My husbands American company changed from throwing women over a desk, messing, nude pictures on walls to zero tolerance. A mega serious issue.
 

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Jeez I would have just assumed they have a policy. Do they not. My husbands American company changed from throwing women over a desk, messing, nude pictures on walls to zero tolerance. A mega serious issue.
I would assume nothing until they produce one and show that all party members were aware of it, and that it had been enforced.
 

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I would assume nothing until they produce one and show that all party members were aware of it, and that it had been enforced.


Well then if not, once again, nonsense, and sound bites. After Aine Collins why am I not surprised. But there does seem to be some kind of problem in the Dail?
 

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Well then if not, once again, nonsense, and sound bites. After Aine Collins why am I not surprised. But there does seem to be some kind of problem in the Dail?
If it is anything like the UK Parliament, there is almost certainly a serious one. We know from UK reports that Parliamentary computers were used to access pornography, for example. Stormont, maybe simply because the Wee Frees will not tolerate that, has very strict net filters. Are there similar controls in Leinster House?

What do we know about the treatment of female aides, researchers, personal assistants? These are often the target of bullying and sexual harrassment more than female TDs/MPs/MLAs.
 

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Well this is the nub of it. Check their website. Most parties make theirs publicly available.
The FG website is so devoid of content I couldnt find anything at all. I noted that in their general statements regarding their values they referred to equality of opportunity and a fair and caring society in which everyone is engaged in democracy.

So the question is how does this translate into policies whereby women are not treated less fairly than men within their own party?
 


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