FG need to get Act together

riker1969

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So we are a year and a half into this new Government. Even allowing for its shaky foundations I believe it is failing in a few key areas-most areas
Health- we still have a situation where most people take out health insurance because they cant rely on system
Childcare-we still have one of highest expenditure in the OECD by parents
Insurance costs-Still escalating
Homelessness-Still increasing

To give them credit they have kept the economy stable but unless they start making serious inroads to a few of these areas -the average punter will desert them. Bar the 20% they always get but that wont be enough to keep them in power.
 


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over 7 years of fine gael and only now you are getting on your hind legs over "issues"......Christ on a bike:?
 

Disillusioned democrat

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So we are a year and a half into this new Government. Even allowing for its shaky foundations I believe it is failing in a few key areas-most areas
Health- we still have a situation where most people take out health insurance because they cant rely on system
Childcare-we still have one of highest expenditure in the OECD by parents
Insurance costs-Still escalating
Homelessness-Still increasing

To give them credit they have kept the economy stable but unless they start making serious inroads to a few of these areas the average punter will desert them.
I think it's a question of perspective - FG believe they're doing great for all the same reasons most sane people believe they're performing poorly.

FG are very much the party of the propertied class - to them health insurance is a great way to jump the queue, high childcare only effects those with no Au Pairs and homelessness is a story they tell their kids to behave.
 

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FG created the housing and homeless crisis when they entered government in 2011.
There's serious money in that business for well connected FG cronies.
FG's HAP scheme is directly responsible for the massive spike in rents and the knock on effect on the cost of housing.
Noonans vulture scum mates have cleaned up....and gotten away with paying sweet f**k all tax thanks to the 'charitable status' he allowed them take.
FG are dirt.
Ireland will rue the day......
180000 empty houses.

We don't need anymore.
 

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I wouldnt blame FG totally for housing mess. For a lot of their first few years in Government it was lifeboat time. There was a lot of concentration on paying bills. NAMA is owned by taxpayers and perhaps there was too big a focus on getting a return for taxpayer rather than looking at long term housing. I would blame them for not concentrating more on social housing and not bringing in vacant site tax sooner. I think its due in 2019
 

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in the end of the day the majority of voters seem to be a bit thick.
so fine gael won't be worried.
 

riker1969

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180000 empty houses.

We don't need anymore.
A lot of them in places like Leitrim where most people dont want to live. There are also a lot of those houses where the owner might want to take residency soon. They should work out which are needed and impose a rental order in six months if the houses are not occupied. They could latch a referendum with the abortion one if needed.
 

riker1969

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FG created the housing and homeless crisis when they entered government in 2011.
There's serious money in that business for well connected FG cronies.
FG's HAP scheme is directly responsible for the massive spike in rents and the knock on effect on the cost of housing.
Noonans vulture scum mates have cleaned up....and gotten away with paying sweet f**k all tax thanks to the 'charitable status' he allowed them take.
FG are dirt.
Ireland will rue the day......
There has been pretty much a housing crisis of one sort or another in Ireland for last 20 years. Fintan O' Toole did a good pice on it recently. No doubt poor planning,Developers, Planning corruption all played their part in this perpetual crisis but it didnt start in 2011.
 

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I wouldnt blame FG totally for housing mess. For a lot of their first few years in Government it was lifeboat time. There was a lot of concentration on paying bills. NAMA is owned by taxpayers and perhaps there was too big a focus on getting a return for taxpayer rather than looking at long term housing. I would blame them for not concentrating more on social housing and not bringing in vacant site tax sooner. I think its due in 2019
Many voters are absolutely against social housing for spongers. They probably don't deserve HAP either but at least that money goes to decent folk in the end.:cool:
 

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FG created the housing and homeless crisis when they entered government in 2011.
There's serious money in that business for well connected FG cronies.
FG's HAP scheme is directly responsible for the massive spike in rents and the knock on effect on the cost of housing.
Noonans vulture scum mates have cleaned up....and gotten away with paying sweet f**k all tax thanks to the 'charitable status' he allowed them take.
FG are dirt.
Ireland will rue the day......
FF insisted on raising the HAP rates big time after the last election which caused the rent spike more than anything else. Get your facts straight.
 

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I wouldnt blame FG totally for housing mess. For a lot of their first few years in Government it was lifeboat time. There was a lot of concentration on paying bills. NAMA is owned by taxpayers and perhaps there was too big a focus on getting a return for taxpayer rather than looking at long term housing. I would blame them for not concentrating more on social housing and not bringing in vacant site tax sooner. I think its due in 2019
The problem is, FG very much picked who got into the life boats and who drowned in debt and austerity.

FG's "recovery" is very one sided.
 

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Looks like parish pump politics is never going to go away.

I really wish some party/government had vision about this country, like a believable, sustainable 20 year plan or something that future governments would have to continue.

A pressure reliever city/cities for Dublin, check.

No more one off housing with Fibre Broadband up every boreen. check (or pay for it yourself eh?)

Strategic use of the Health Service, hospitals, centres of excellence and ignore all the paddywhackery of a hospital in every county. Check.

Improve, pay for and subsidise hugely public transport in Dublin and other cities. It is woeful now. Check.

Move Dublin Port elsewhere and use the hundreds of acres of land for the people. check.

God I could be on here all night.

VISION please. Long term strategies. That would be a start.
 


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