FG parliamentary party meeting scanned for bugging devices

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Just 'cos Charlie & Seanie (Doherty) are dead and buried doesn't necessarily mean the FF Durty Trix Dept. is likewise!
 


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At last somebody here posting about what really matters to most Irish people.
One of the things that really matter to Irish people is to be in a position to vote for a party that shows signs of being competent to run the country.

While Fine Gael does not have Fianna Fáil's appalling track record, it clearly has a credíbility problem at the moment.
 

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A frankly surreal glimpse into last night's Fine Gael parliamentary party meeting by Deaglan de Bradun in this mornings Irish Times.



Kenny calls for discretion at party meeting - The Irish Times - Thu, Oct 07, 2010
On another point raised in the article, Senator Regan has asked that the results of focus groups, etc, be released to the TD's and Senators - Kenny will NEVER allow this.

To do this, it would only shed light on the fantasy that his West of Ireland backers have that we have a 50/50 split between FF/FG in this country. To do this would only back the dissenter's claims that the party is being obliterated in Dublin, in Cork city, in Galway city and other large urban areas.
 

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When your main rivals are FF, I'm not surprised FG check for bugs.

Probably afraid of FF stealing some of their policies.

Another good move from Kenny.
 

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Would the 2.5 million slush fund for Siptu have helped the CF sufferers I wonder or financed a special unit?
 

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Labour are doing their job. SF are doing their job. FG patently are not doing their job. The job of opposition is to highlight govt inadequacies while hiding your own and, in an ideal world, presenting your solutions. Labour are doing a great job at the first 2.

FG are doing a good job on the first one, but then undoing it all by being on the front page every second day through infighting, incompetence and rank stupidty.

This is a stupid story. The people responsible for it within FG are stupid people. That's not the medias fault, FFs fault or our fault for pointing and laughing at the stupid people.

Maybe. you have point, not to worry, things will work out, Another point though is that Fianna
Fail people at the moment. if they had any intelligence at all between their ears, they would at least keep their head down,Driving from Galway today, listening to Joe Duffy never in my life did I hear such misery, C. F,patient coughing up blood. afraid the will get infection and be dead next week.a single room is required for those type of patient,One told how his son travelled the world
OK, went into hospital got infection and died. There were photographs taken 12 years ago
and the building was to go ahead. it never did. Bertie and Mr Cowen and Miss Harney were the people in charge. not Mr Kenny, Millions spent on PR companies.Harney going to FloridA
just listening to the news now , Nobody knows anything. It is now time for Mr Cowen and Harney to resign. I f they were half decent they would do so this evening. Mr Kenny on a bad day would be better than any of them. This government has shamed our people and disgraced our country. If Fianna Fail people are unable to see this now our country is finished and no hope of recovery.How come Fianna Fail people in high places have such greed to line their pockets. Last week we saw a former Toiseach stuck in a cupboard doing an ad, This evening we see that McCreevy had to stand down from the board of a bank. on a breech of conduct, he was told 5 weeks ago he was bringing his former position into disrepute. he had to be pushed again today, Those people are the best paid in the world and they still bring shame on our country, Lets hope Mr Kenny puts a stop to personal greed when he takes power. We have seen too much of it over the last few years.
 
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On another point raised in the article, Senator Regan has asked that the results of focus groups, etc, be released to the TD's and Senators - Kenny will NEVER allow this.

To do this, it would only shed light on the fantasy that his West of Ireland backers have that we have a 50/50 split between FF/FG in this country. To do this would only back the dissenter's claims that the party is being obliterated in Dublin, in Cork city, in Galway city and other large urban areas.
There are reports of a local poll in Cork S Central that has Fg at 40% - I think it's published on local cork papers
Fg obliterated in cork? I think not if these reports are correct
 

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Sorry to ruin the routine rants of Cyp etc but

1) Oppositions worldwide often have to check to make sure meeting rooms, offices, etc are not bugged. That is particularly so where in the past a Fianna Fáil taoiseach was responsible for bugging opponents, and where FF has a history of abusing the institutions of the state for political gain.

2) In Leinster House most parties have their parliamentary party meeting room up among party offices where there is no access for members of the public or political opponents. Fine Gael's old parliamentary Party rooms were located where the new extension, LH2000, was built in 2000. Fine Gael's meeting room is on a corridor used by all parties - the corridor that links the basement of the 18th century house to the first floor of LH2000. Technically members of the public shouldn't have access to down there, but it is accessible to the media and political rivals, whereas Fianna Fáil's, for example, is on the fourth floor of the Five Storey Block that is located between Government Buildings and the National Museum, and so cannot be got to by elements of the media or political rivals easily. So it is natural that Fine Gael, because of the location of its parliamentary party room, would have to take particular care to ensure no one had tampered with the room.

3) One of the British newspapers now available in Ireland has already been caught in Britain breaking the law by getting access to voicemails, etc while there have been suspicions about certain other papers. Given that any journalist could at any stage go down the corridor the room is on, and nip in to plant something if they found the rooms unlocked, it is understandable if Fine Gael has to take ensuring the room has no recording mechanisms hidden in it seriously. In contrast for someone to get access to the Fianna Fáil room would involve a journalist having to go onto floors they have no right of access to, and hope no-one sees them despite the fact that the corridors would be busy and many people work with their doors open so would notice a journalist snooping around, and in the knowledge that if caught on a party floor they would have their access to the complex removed and possibly have their paper banned from having journalists there.

But of course, Cyp and nutters like Keith 2 seats have no interest in facts and prefer instead to go into their usual "I hate Fine Gael" childish posts. But then, the usual suspects among the Kenny-bashers and Fine Gael-haters love having a thread so they can start Kenny-bashing again and engage in their usual mutual masturbation of each other.
 

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Is there no end to your talents Tommy? You're an expert on bugging too? :)
The simplest thing for anyone wanting to cover one of Enda Da Line's meetings would be to recruit a dissident. And there seems to be no shortage of those lately. The big problem for any journalist would be sorting out the self-serving accounts from the reality. And if FGer wanted to bug those meetings, then the simplest way would be to wait for the room to be swept and then, once it has been given the all clear, press the speed-dial number for a journalist on the mobile phone in their pocket.


Regards...jmcc
 

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Sorry to ruin the routine rants of Cyp etc but

1) Oppositions worldwide often have to check to make sure meeting rooms, offices, etc are not bugged. That is particularly so where in the past a Fianna Fáil taoiseach was responsible for bugging opponents, and where FF has a history of abusing the institutions of the state for political gain.

2) In Leinster House most parties have their parliamentary party meeting room up among party offices where there is no access for members of the public or political opponents. Fine Gael's old parliamentary Party rooms were located where the new extension, LH2000, was built in 2000. Fine Gael's meeting room is on a corridor used by all parties - the corridor that links the basement of the 18th century house to the first floor of LH2000. Technically members of the public shouldn't have access to down there, but it is accessible to the media and political rivals, whereas Fianna Fáil's, for example, is on the fourth floor of the Five Storey Block that is located between Government Buildings and the National Museum, and so cannot be got to by elements of the media or political rivals easily. So it is natural that Fine Gael, because of the location of its parliamentary party room, would have to take particular care to ensure no one had tampered with the room.

3) One of the British newspapers now available in Ireland has already been caught in Britain breaking the law by getting access to voicemails, etc while there have been suspicions about certain other papers. Given that any journalist could at any stage go down the corridor the room is on, and nip in to plant something if they found the rooms unlocked, it is understandable if Fine Gael has to take ensuring the room has no recording mechanisms hidden in it seriously. In contrast for someone to get access to the Fianna Fáil room would involve a journalist having to go onto floors they have no right of access to, and hope no-one sees them despite the fact that the corridors would be busy and many people work with their doors open so would notice a journalist snooping around, and in the knowledge that if caught on a party floor they would have their access to the complex removed and possibly have their paper banned from having journalists there.

But of course, Cyp and nutters like Keith 2 seats have no interest in facts and prefer instead to go into their usual "I hate Fine Gael" childish posts. But then, the usual suspects among the Kenny-bashers and Fine Gael-haters love having a thread so they can start Kenny-bashing again and engage in their usual mutual masturbation of each other.

Quite correct. Cyp and others like him seem hell bent on keeping up an anti FG/Kenny rant, they must be driven mad by the likes of Biffo bender, Bertie, The Bull, O Dea and so many other FF folk who are the laugh of many at home and abroad
 

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So FG are being eclipsed by Labour. They are going backwards in the polls, Kenny stil hasn't the confidence of the people and is only in place because of the quota-sitting backwoosmen and it's the MEDIA'S fault. You really couldn't make this up!
All you're doing now is demonstrating your complete ignorance, just like you did when you claimed FG would run a low-profile candidate in the Dublin South by-election last year, in return for Labour running a low-profile candidate in Dublin Central (a week later, FG unveiled George Lee). Its well known that the quota-squatters were at the forefront of attempts to remove Kenny, because the strategy of no single-candidate tickets came directly from Kenny.
 

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All you're doing now is demonstrating your complete ignorance, just like you did when you claimed FG would run a low-profile candidate in the Dublin South by-election last year, in return for Labour running a low-profile candidate in Dublin Central (a week later, FG unveiled George Lee). Its well known that the quota-squatters were at the forefront of attempts to remove Kenny, because the strategy of no single-candidate tickets came directly from Kenny.
Eh, Jimmy Deenihan? Pádraig McCormack? I know Deasey backed Bruton but which other qouta squatters?
 

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If Enda wants to keep the FG meeting secret, he should just take Simon's mobile phone off him.

I wonder though, was Enda happy or unhappy that no listening devices were found at that meeting?
Happy; "Oh good, no one is listening in to our plans."
Unhappy; "Oh damn, no one is listening in to our plans."
 

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Eh, Jimmy Deenihan? Pádraig McCormack? I know Deasey backed Bruton but which other qouta squatters?
McCormack's not a quota squatter. Then there's Deasy as you say, but also Creighton and English, for starters.
 

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McCormack's not a quota squatter. Then there's Deasy as you say, but also Creighton and English, for starters.
You'll forgive my cynicism, but I find it a tad odd that he's never - in all his 21 years as a TD, been able to bring in a running mate in this 5 seat constituency. And has Creighton or English had time to become a quota squatter?
 


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