The Sinn Féin TD's are there to represent the people who elected them, and the party, therefore any decision on who to or not to support, if anyone in forming a government will be taking by the party leadership, if the other parties have a problem with that then tough shit.[/quote:2w1vi3a4]padraig said:hiding behind a poster said:now what do you think the odds of that being the 4 mentioned above are SF members and proud of same, they would not function as independants but as SF representatives in the Dail, as to whether they'd make decisions on their own or differ to SF HQ what do you think ? it would in effect be Adam's and McGuiness using them as proxiesdrbob1972 said:[quote="hiding behind a poster":2w1vi3a4]drbob1972 said:do you really want a government that is dependant on SF support?
I could cope with a government requiring the support of Ferris, Morgan, O'Snodaigh and O'Caolain - but it'd have to be those four effectively operating as an autonomous group. For all that Adams is party president, and McGuinness is whatever he is, the fact is that neither is elected to public office in the Republic, and the four TDs couldn't be going to him seeking approval on everything every other week. Plus, if the SF parliamentary party was actually formed as such, it might be possible to thus draw a distinction between it and the broader SF movement that effectively contains the IRA as well. And that would make it a lot easier for FG members to support it.
I'm not saying they should deny their membership of SF, or anything of the sort. What I'm saying is that the SF Parliamentary Party can't be subservient to unelected party grandees like Adams and McGuinness. And that's the case regardless of whether its FF or FG they coalesce with. (After all, its hard to see McGuinness deferring to Adams on much, now that he's First Minister and Gerry is nothing but an MP.
But sooner or later the Parliamentary Party has to learn to stand on its own two feet, Padraig. If every party in government in the Republic kept going back to consult its membership over everything, nothing would ever get done. Whatever about formulating policy outside government, once in government the PP must lead, and the rest of the party will follow.
Anyway, I can see a situation developing where the PP would actually start getting tired of having to refer everything back to Adams - after all, by refusing to ever stand for election in the Republic, AND steering clear of a ministry in the Northern Assembly, he seems unwilling to ever put himself in a position where difficult decisions of government needed to be made - preferring to create some mystical role as a uncorrupted, unsullied father-figure of Republicanism. And those who have to take everyday decisions in the real political world would soon tire of deferring to such a person. Its the same reason the Irish Treaty delegation got so p*ssed off with DeValera in 1921.