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Finucane- the breach of an International agreement


Northtipp

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As a result of today's review by De Silva, the British government has continued its ignorance of an Internatinal Agreement between Ireland and the UK? As part of the Weston Park agreement the UK govt and Irish govts agreed to the public enquiry if recommended by Judge Peter Corry. That was recommended but since that time the Uk govt has refused to honour its agreement. Today's review is another example of that stance and indeed a reinforcement by David Cameron also

The Irish govt have been fully supportive of the Finucane family's persual of an independent public enquiry .Geraldine Finucane spoke tonight of the fact that Enda Kenny had supported the family. the Irish govt continues to seek the enquiry

Government “strongly disagrees” with decision not to conduct public Finucane inquiry

The leader of the Labour party in the Uk has also requested the enquiry

Miliband calls for Finucane inquiry - National News, Breaking News - Independent.ie

There is cross party support in the Dail for the public enquiry.

In spite of this the Uk govt refuses to honour it's agreement with Ireland.

So what should Ireland now do ? Is this a case t be taken to international courts or to seek to use international influence to get to the truth?
 
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Just wait and see how long it takes to get this put in the black hole of the NI forum NT. Good. Luck for trying though. Here comes the zoo keepers.:lol:
 

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As a resut of today's review by De Silva, the British government has continued its ignorance of an Internatinal Agreement between Ireland and the UK? As part of the Weston Park agreement the UK govt and Irish govts agreed to the public enquiry if recommended by Judge Peter Corry. That was recommended but since that time the Uk govt has refused to honour its agreement. Today's review is another example of that stance and indeed a reinforcement by David Cameron also

The Irish govt have been fully supportive of the Finucane family's persual of an independent public enquiry .Geraldine Finucane spoke tonight of the fact that Enda Kenny had supported the family. the Irish govt continues to seek the enquiry

Government “strongly disagrees” with decision not to conduct public Finucane inquiry

The leader of the Labour party in the Uk has also requested the enquiry

Miliband calls for Finucane inquiry - National News, Breaking News - Independent.ie

There is cross party support in the Dail for the public enquiry.

In spite of this the Uk govt refuses to honour it's agreement with Ireland.

So what should Ireland now do ? Is this a case t be taken to international courts or to seek to use international influence to get to the truth?
An appropriate measure would be to haul in the Ambassador and give him a right spanking. However, if that happens, you can be sure the Torygraph and the Sun would have headlines such as ''Bankrupt Ireland upset at UK Despite Bilateral Loan''.

No offence to this tragic story, but I think a more pressing issue for the government would be to find out what happened in the Dublin/Monaghan bombings and see for once in for all if it were an act of war by the UK.
 

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It is not even remotely surprising that the British government has ignored an agreement.
 

Northtipp

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Just wait and see how long it takes to get this put in the black hole of the NI forum NT. Good. Luck for trying though. Here comes the zoo keepers.:lol:
I hope not. THis is a foreign affairs matter.
 

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You lie in your teeth.
Corry recommended 5 enquiries.
4 have taken place.
The Finucane family refused to have anything to do with the enquiry and that is why it did not take place.
 

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I hope not. THis is a foreign affairs matter.
One might have thought the fact the Finucane findings were the biggest current affair on all the news outlets that it might have been allowed to stay in that section but it got deported to the NI rump pretty damn fast.
 

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The other four cases - the murders of Pat Finucane, Robert Hamill, Rosemary Nelson and Billy Wright - relate to allegations of collusion by British security forces and these were submitted to the British Government.
[edit]The result

Cory recommended in all four cases that the UK Government hold public inquiries:


Cory Collusion Inquiry - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 

Ex celt

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The other four cases - the murders of Pat Finucane, Robert Hamill, Rosemary Nelson and Billy Wright - relate to allegations of collusion by British security forces and these were submitted to the British Government.
[edit]The result

Cory recommended in all four cases that the UK Government hold public inquiries:


Cory Collusion Inquiry - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
...but the terms in Finucane could not be agreed with the family.
On this issue I agree with you.
 

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An appropriate measure would be to haul in the Ambassador and give him a right spanking. However, if that happens, you can be sure the Torygraph and the Sun would have headlines such as ''Bankrupt Ireland upset at UK Despite Bilateral Loan''.

No offence to this tragic story, but I think a more pressing issue for the government would be to find out what happened in the Dublin/Monaghan bombings and see for once in for all if it were an act of war by the UK.
The December 1972 Bombings certainly were
 

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If you want to discuss lawyers being whacked by the State, you'd have to go to a British political site.
Nobody wants to hear about it on Irish "political" websites.
 

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An appropriate measure would be to haul in the Ambassador and give him a right spanking. However, if that happens, you can be sure the Torygraph and the Sun would have headlines such as ''Bankrupt Ireland upset at UK Despite Bilateral Loan''.

No offence to this tragic story, but I think a more pressing issue for the government would be to find out what happened in the Dublin/Monaghan bombings and see for once in for all if it were an act of war by the UK.
Scores of Irish citizens have been killed in the 26 Counties by British death squads.
The Gardai and Judicial system have failed to achieve a single conviction in any of the murders.
Even when a Loyalist was arrested in the North in possession of the guns that killed Eddie Fullerton in Donegal, no application was made to have him extradited for questioning.
They simply look the other way, when British agents kill some poor pleb in their jurisdiction.
With the Finucane case, they're just bandstanding.
 

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You never know he might enjoy that ... :shock:
On a more serious note, you would think he would be hauled in. If it was the other way around you can bet your bottom dollar it would happen. It's a disgraceful flouting of an international agreement.
 

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On a more serious note, you would think he would be hauled in. If it was the other way around you can bet your bottom dollar it would happen. It's a disgraceful flouting of an international agreement.
They might mention it to him at next year's Royal Dublin Horse Show NT.
 

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What would an inquiry reveal that we do not know already?
 

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On a more serious note, you would think he would be hauled in. If it was the other way around you can bet your bottom dollar it would happen. It's a disgraceful flouting of an international agreement.
It could just be that the British people, who are also suffering from the recession, are not in the mood to throw yet more millions at another independent inquiry, particularly considering the strong stench of hypocrisy wafting from PIRA admirers, and its the British public the British government answer to not the Finucanes or even the Irish government.

I think the cost of the Savile inquiry would have been mentioned including the enormous salaries paid to the lawyers involved, and everyone knows the respect lawyers are held in, and the ultimate pointlessness of the result.

I'm thinking of a couple of incredibly expensive inquiries held here and the lack of criminal charges resulting from them.
 

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