Fionnuala Kenny - Charlie Haughey's Spindoctor during the heaves-is she still FF ?

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Fionnuala O'Kelly was talented spotted by the late and evil PJ Mara - to become an assistant Government press secretary

She was so good at Information Terrorism for Fianna Fáil, that the late and evil CJ Haughey appointed her overall head of the Government Information Service - where she saw off the heaves against Haughey

There is a gulf in intellect and class between Fionnuala and Enda - and the articles below are among the many that suggest she has crafted him into FG Leader/Taoiseach

Denis O'Brien aided in clearing out the FG debt - and the Moriarty Tribunal resulted - Denis was indeed a Fine Gael man - interestingly he teamed up with Fionnuala's old boss , PJ Mara, who became chairman of Digicel

Yet Fine Gael profess life long enmity to Fianna Fáil ?

I, as are many others, are of the opinion that standards have slipped dramatically during Enda Kenny's reign as Fine Gael leader ... they have become the same thing as Fianna Fáil

Is Fionnuala domineering / running Enda ?




Flashback 1992: Marriage of Enda Kenny and Fionnuala O'Kelly - Independent.ie
For years they maintained a clandestine relationship - with occasional breaks - known only to "a few close friends."...the wedding reception has held in the Pembroke Road restaurant Le Coq Hardi
The F-Factor - Independent.ie
She was Charlie Haughey's glamorous and talented Fianna Fail press officer and later head of Government Information Services, all during the Fianna Fail upheavals of the 1980s and early 1990s.
... In 1997 there was no hint of such ambition. And many believe it was the feisty Fionnuala who gave him the confidence to step up to the plate.

So who is this driven woman who is so influential..."In nine years she saw as much raw, gut politics close up as many a veteran politician would see in a lifetime. Those lessons she learned were invaluable when it came to helping her husband..."Fionnuala is, without doubt, his best political adviser -- not in routine or everyday matters," one friend summed up.

"She has a long-term view and she understands the game of politics."
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'the game of politics'. Many people are already aware that the label FF or FG is just a brand and is really only used to denote different circles of influence.

Those who believe there is some intrinsic difference between these labels in terms of governance (you see some of them active on this forum) are either knowing liars or the biggest fools in Ireland.

The only difference between the daughters of FG and the daughters of FF is that the former try to figure out how to get Dadda to buy them a piano whereas the other spends their time trying to figure out how to get their neighbour's piano unnoticed out through a window.
 

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Bit early for you cyp?
 

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Fianna Fail would steal your pig at midnight. Fine Gael would send a Sergeant around to inform you that you had better realise you never owned a pig in the first place.
 

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Maybe, just maybe,she is bargaining with him to offer him more "souls" in exchange for her own (in particular, her human adversaries), thus resulting in her life being spared???
 

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Bit early for you cyp?
Plenty of sources - clear analysis - and all you can offer is abuse ?

And do remind - the fragant tales of your background - were they Walter Mitty - or an attempt at deception ? There's more than a bit of both in your cotorie

In any case my OP very much still stands ... a Fianna Fáiler who aided FF significantly in their darkest hour - is the handler for her intellectually inferior husband - a Fine Gael Taoiseach

One imagines she used to have to "lie back and think of Fianna Fáil" when he pleasured himself on her

cyp
 

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Arguably Enda's greatest achievement has been to destroy the high moral ground us blueshirts used to think we held over our less ethical and slightly constitutional sparring partners.

What is needed is a collective stratdgy to keep things going our way. Things have slipped...
 

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Plenty of sources - clear analysis - and all you can offer is abuse ?

And do remind - the fragant tales of your background - were they Walter Mitty - or an attempt at deception ? There's more than a bit of both in your cotorie

In any case my OP very much still stands ... a Fianna Fáiler who aided FF significantly in their darkest hour - is the handler for her intellectually inferior husband - a Fine Gael Taoiseach

One imagines she used to have to "lie back and think of Fianna Fáil" when he pleasured himself on her

cyp
Yeah, but the thing about them is there is no difference between pleasure and pain.

They are completely amoral, their dedication to their life-style taking priority over any notions of right or wrong.

Darling, I saw the films about them and the main divide was between the first and the second where hell had undergone a revolution and abandoned the traditional concept in favour of a more austere embodiment of torment. That was Hell-Raiser: Inferno, where they brought in water charges.

You see first they were just predatory, but then in the sequel they were punitive agents, tasked with persecuting people endlessly.

I have got the series right, havent I? It was in your film still ... :)
 

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Plenty of sources - clear analysis - and all you can offer is abuse ?

And do remind - the fragant tales of your background - were they Walter Mitty - or an attempt at deception ? There's more than a bit of both in your cotorie

In any case my OP very much still stands ... a Fianna Fáiler who aided FF significantly in their darkest hour - is the handler for her intellectually inferior husband - a Fine Gael Taoiseach

One imagines she used to have to "lie back and think of Fianna Fáil" when he pleasured himself on her

cyp
You see Dostoyevskyian intrigue when all that is really going on is Glenroe.

I suppose if it keeps you off the streets.....
 

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He's been elected twice as a FG Taoiseach ffs cYP, if she is a FF plant she's doing a terrible job.

As for standards slipping, you can't blame her for James Reilly, Phil Hogan and Michael Lowry.
 

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He's been elected twice as a FG Taoiseach ffs cYP, if she is a FF plant she's doing a terrible job.
He is a Fianna Gaelian Taoiseach - and even the Beast of Drumcondra is rattling the cages , thinking he is due a return - so well has Enda paved the way

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He's been elected twice as a FG Taoiseach ffs cYP, if she is a FF plant she's doing a terrible job.
Layers upon layers ger....our tiny minds cannot comprehend the subtle strategies at play here.

It is only given to rare individuals to be able to interpret such matters. Thank God we have cyp to illuminate these goings-on.
 

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You see Dostoyevskyian intrigue when all that is really going on is Glenroe.

I suppose if it keeps you off the streets.....
Glenroe was quite deftly scripted - then again - you don't really have a mind of your own - so you wouldn't realise that - and again the personal abuse - but the tangential effort at addressing the OP , is better than your last one - though not enough to report back to the Mad Padre of Ranelagh for credit on yet ...

Fine Gael did indeed have a reasonably strong ethical core - but with the likes of Michael McDowell effectively drifting over into Bertie's column ...the environment was very challenging for them

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No political party in Ireland has ever survived a whiff of power with any ethics or morals left intact.

You dont need to look to sleepers like Mata Hari Kenny.

Oh do stop being so tribal, cYp. All that separates FG and FF is table manners.
 

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CyP, while you seem to be fixed on Fionnuala being FF as if there's some distinction, the rest of us just see FF and FG for what they rightly are....a very cozy cartel. Both have found themselves washed up on the foreign shore that is modern Ireland and regardless of what they thought of the other before the ship sank they now find that the others company is the only familiar thing left.

In fairness, Enda's marriage to Fionnuala was merely an omen of things to come, and the on/off nature of their early relationship highly symbolic of FF and FG's own relationship....and as for the consummation of either marriage, that is another thing best not mentioned for fear of the images it might bring to the imagination...I'll leave you on that one, have a lovely evening :cool:
 

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No political party in Ireland has ever survived a whiff of power with any ethics or morals left intact.

You dont need to look to sleepers like Mata Hari Kenny.

Oh do stop being so tribal, cYp. All that separates FG and FF is table manners.
Meh ... FG always had a bit over the majority in favor of playing it straight, FF a bit under. The origins were FF had a lot of carpetbaggers late to the party... amusingly the Greener party had more Castle Catholics

CJ took FF on a tilt to fuller darkness... Enda has helped FG to migrate

Also Garret The Good ...in his attempts to fix things...bumbled...and made things worse

At least CJ retained some degree of control over the darkness he invited in....FG have none. Clean sweep time imo ...having your leader in bed with the former Head of Coverups/Dirty tricks for the other side...is not wise

Heck...even The Donald knows he can't dump Melania for Maria or Katerina...

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Meh ... FG always had a bit over the majority in favor of playing it straight, FF a bit under. The origins were FF had a lot of carpetbaggers late to the party... amusingly the Greener party had more Castle Catholics

CJ took FF on a tilt to fuller darkness... Enda has helped FG to migrate

Also Garret The Good ...in his attempts to fix things...bumbled...and made things worse

At least CJ retained some degree of control over the darkness he invited in....FG have none. Clean sweep time imo ...having your leader in bed with the former Head of Coverups/Dirty tricks for the other side...is not wise

cyp

Playing it a bit straight? is that like being a little bit pregnant? :)

Im not remotely surprised by anything any Irish party does, I know what they are made up of.

And its not the best and the brightest, by a long chalk...
 

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Fionnuala O'Kelly was talented spotted by the late and evil PJ Mara - to become an assistant Government press secretary

She was so good at Information Terrorism for Fianna Fáil, that the late and evil CJ Haughey appointed her overall head of the Government Information Service - where she saw off the heaves against Haughey

There is a gulf in intellect and class between Fionnuala and Enda - and the articles below are among the many that suggest she has crafted him into FG Leader/Taoiseach

Denis O'Brien aided in clearing out the FG debt - and the Moriarty Tribunal resulted - Denis was indeed a Fine Gael man - interestingly he teamed up with Fionnuala's old boss , PJ Mara, who became chairman of Digicel

Yet Fine Gael profess life long enmity to Fianna Fáil ?

I, as are many others, are of the opinion that standards have slipped dramatically during Enda Kenny's reign as Fine Gael leader ... they have become the same thing as Fianna Fáil

Is Fionnuala domineering / running Enda ?




Flashback 1992: Marriage of Enda Kenny and Fionnuala O'Kelly - Independent.ie


The F-Factor - Indep
cyp


You posted that "Denis O'Brien aided in clearing the FG debt".
How much did he give?
 


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