first tanks deployed 100 years ago today during the battle of the Somme

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The British came out with the Centurion just as the War ended - mind you the Soviets came out with the JSIII at the same time.
Not quite, it was the Comet that came along at the end of the war, just missed being used during the German's Ardennes offensive of December 1944 in fact. It was a good reliable, well armed and armoured tank but really about two years late. The Centurion was the great leap forward but the first prototypes were only produced in January 1945 and it didn't enter production untl after the war, it was an excellent tank however, arguably the best in the world for many years.
As for the JSIII, it certainly put the wind up the Western Allies when it first appeared at the Victory Parade in Berlin in 1945, huge, heavily armoured with the biggest gun yet seen on a tank so far, 122mm, but it wasn't actually a very good tank by all accounts. (Have a look for Nicholas Moran's review of it on You Tube).
It did cause the Brits to develop the Conqueror heavy tank however, as a counter to it. It had a 120mm gun and weighed 70 tonnes so obviously it's role was limited largely to defence and as such it equipped only one squadron of each armoured regiment in Germany as a back0up to Centurion. Withdrawn in the early 60's with the advent of Chieftain.
 

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The big tanks arguably had little effect in WW II.

Arguably both the Soviets and Americans got it just right by developing the T 34 and Sherman. These tanks could be produced in vast numbers and could be simply upgraded just by fitting a more high-velocity gun capable to knock out even the heaviest German tanks.

It was a much more cost-effective production policy.

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herself got me a book about them chrismass 2 year ago,,,, did ye know there was male and female english tanks them times???? no ************************tin now thats 100 % true.... i dont think there was any gender fluid ones though.... :(:(:(;)
It's interesting the thought process behind that isn't it?

The 'female' tank didn't have cannons but was armed with more machine guns while the male was armed with 6 pounder cannons and machine guns.
 

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Gender fluid?

In 1918 it was decided that tanks should be 'hermaphrodites', simultaneously male and female, carrying both heavy armament and lighter machine guns.
 

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The big tanks arguably had little effect in WW II.

Arguably both the Soviets and Americans got it just right by developing the T 34 and Sherman. These tanks could be produced in vast numbers and could be simply upgraded just by fitting a more high-velocity gun capable to knock out even the heaviest German tanks.

It was a much more cost-effective production policy.

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Yes, it's strange that the US and NATO are now making the mistake the Germans made, i.e. super-sophisticated weapons that are far too costly to build in large numbers and which spend most of their time in the repair shop. After eight months of bombing Libya, the NATO air fleet was largely grounded for repairs. Russian airpower has been far more resilient in Syria.
 

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Yes, it's strange that the US and NATO are now making the mistake the Germans made, i.e. super-sophisticated weapons that are far too costly to build in large numbers and which spend most of their time in the repair shop. After eight months of bombing Libya, the NATO air fleet was largely grounded for repairs. Russian airpower has been far more resilient in Syria.
Resilient? Fragile more like it.....

Russian aircraft loses from hostile action in Syria....1 SU24, 5 attack helicopters and 2 troopships. 19 aircrew and air transported troops dead.

Western loses in Libya due to hostile action ....1 Lynx(subsequently recovered) no dead personnel.
 

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Gender fluid?

In 1918 it was decided that tanks should be 'hermaphrodites', simultaneously male and female, carrying both heavy armament and lighter machine guns.
:D:D:D love it.... merc will be scutterin himself.... :):):)
 


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