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Fix bayonets - Willie O'Dea wants the Irish Army patrolling the countryside.


williewatch

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My Goodness, Fianna Fail have a right pair of clowns in a double act here in Limerick with Willie O'Dea and Niall Collins.

O'Dea's latest publicity gambit is to call for the Army to be drafted in to help combat crime .

A soldier in every hedgerow?

OAPs relieved over U-turn on panic buttons - News, Frontpage - Herald.ie

"Meanwhile, the Army should be drafted in to help gardai in patrolling rural areas, former defence minister Willie O'Dea said."

Don't get me wrong. We all know something drastic needs to be done but O'Dea knows that there is zero chance of the army being drafted in. Its the equivalent of those "Bring back the Birtch" calls so loved by the tabloids. While many like the idea we all know that it will never happen. O'Dea needs to stop distracting the grown ups as they try deal with the serious issue of rural crime. It's like O'Dea is quoting a couple lads he overheard solving the worlds problems over a few pints.

I wonder does O'Dea ever stop to think before talking to the media? Has he anything positive to contribute ?

In the past month he has had a go at Satanists, gave a laughable interview to the Limerick Leader about writing his memoirs and now he is looking for the country side to be militarised. I can't wait to see what he comes up with next. :D

Clearly O'Dea is a man badly addicted to publicity but in reality has nothing worthwhile to say.

Of course O'Dea could have pushed for army involvement when he was junior minister for justice or Minister for Defence, but I don't recall him doing anything along those lines.

 
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LamportsEdge

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Basically Willie O'Dea has come up with a wheeze that allows him to say he's tackling crime in rural and suburban Limerick at no cost to Limerick taxpayers.

Pity he didn't think of it when he was Minister of Defence and therefore in a position to make recommendations on the usage of the Defence Forces.

Then again as Willie is probably aware there were most likely reasons why that wasn't practical or desirable.

Willie kite flying for Willie's career. Perhaps next he could examine the possibility of distracting criminals from crime by legalising brothels.
 

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Something needs to be done. The danger is that Sutter might decide to bring the army in to replace gardai who he intends to throw off the payroll. Anything for the Anglo Bondholders.

Crime is definitely out of control. I have been told by a garda in the Midlands, of rural dwellers applying for gun licences, and buying rifles. It is only a matter of time before some robber gets shot.

Then the vested interest (the legal profession), around whose income this is all founded, will go ballistic.

A dead criminal is bad for the legal business. It means less business. And business is on a roll at the moment.
 

ruserious

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Calling in an army to deal with civilian problems has more significance than simply having extra people there to help. It suggests that the civil authorities cannot solve the problem and you are upping the situation by militarising it. See Derry 1972.

BTW...wikileaks revealed that the British were appalled with Willie was made Minister for Defence. In a secret cable to the US, it was said he has no experience whatsoever and seems an electoral appointment.
 

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When you think back that this guy used to be Minister for (sitting on) deFence, heaven help us.

When the Asgard struck an underwater object off the coast of France and sank, it could have been salvaged immediately with the insurers picking up the tab, but Wee Willie couldn't make a decision, and in the best Ahern tradition dithered until it was too late. Now he wants an untrained squaddie behind every hedge. FFS!
 

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Something needs to be done. The danger is that Sutter might decide to bring the army in to replace gardai who he intends to throw off the payroll. Anything for the Anglo Bondholders.

Crime is definitely out of control. I have been told by a garda in the Midlands, of rural dwellers applying for gun licences, and buying rifles. It is only a matter of time before some robber gets shot.

Then the vested interest (the legal profession), around whose income this is all founded, will go ballistic.

A dead criminal is bad for the legal business. It means less business. And business is on a roll at the moment.
If rural dwellers are armed, then the said criminals will get what they richly deserve.
 

meriwether

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Calling in an army to deal with civilian problems has more significance than simply having extra people there to help. It suggests that the civil authorities cannot solve the problem and you are upping the situation by militarising it. See Derry 1972.

BTW...wikileaks revealed that the British were appalled with Willie was made Minister for Defence. In a secret cable to the US, it was said he has no experience whatsoever and seems an electoral appointment.
The army currently deal with a number of civilian issues - helping guard cash in transit vans, for instance, or guarding Portlaoise Jail.

They also assist in various relief efforts when weather goes mad, don't they?

In relation to this proposal, why for instance could the army not assist in limited roles, such as in manning drink driver checkpoints? How many cops does it take? 3? if one of them was a soldier, could we not spread more Gardai across more checkpoint locations?
 

IrishWelshCelt

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I here they're having some trouble up north, maybe we could send them up there?
 

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I remember when Mcglinchey and O'hare we're running loose, the Army had checkpoints all over the place. Got stopped at one myself in Douglas village. I believe incidents of joy riding plummetted after some scoby on a stolen bike ran a check point and had the bike shot out from under him.
 

ruserious

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The army currently deal with a number of civilian issues - helping guard cash in transit vans, for instance, or guarding Portlaoise Jail.

They also assist in various relief efforts when weather goes mad, don't they?

In relation to this proposal, why for instance could the army not assist in limited roles, such as in manning drink driver checkpoints? How many cops does it take? 3? if one of them was a soldier, could we not spread more Gardai across more checkpoint locations?
They have an ATCA and ATCP role granted but patrolling the streets for no reason other than crime might happen is totally different and is reminiscent to Martial Law.
 
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this seems to be more a back end problem rather than a front end problem. Most of these scumbag criminals will have multiple convictions so honestly anyone with 4 or 5 charges of burglery against them should either be in prison until their old age, lose a leg and an arm to make them 'armless as it were or otherise keep them under house arrest for very long periods.
otherwise it will be left to rural people to engage in vermin control.
 

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Something needs to be done. The danger is that Sutter might decide to bring the army in to replace gardai who he intends to throw off the payroll. Anything for the Anglo Bondholders.

Crime is definitely out of control. I have been told by a garda in the Midlands, of rural dwellers applying for gun licences, and buying rifles. It is only a matter of time before some robber gets shot.

Then the vested interest (the legal profession), around whose income this is all founded, will go ballistic.

A dead criminal is bad for the legal business. It means less business. And business is on a roll at the moment.
I think you are more right than you realise.

In border areas criminals are coming across teh border and targetting pensioners. In Donegal it is really bad.

It is only a matter of time before one or more of the criminals from Derry operating in Donegal who are beating up and robbing pensioners is killed, then human rights bleating for burglars will start which will give Shatter even more ammunition to attack rural areas.

Either Shatter is completely incompetant, or he is engineering the situation. Only time wil tell.
 

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The army currently deal with a number of civilian issues - helping guard cash in transit vans, for instance, or guarding Portlaoise Jail.

They also assist in various relief efforts when weather goes mad, don't they?

In relation to this proposal, why for instance could the army not assist in limited roles, such as in manning drink driver checkpoints? How many cops does it take? 3? if one of them was a soldier, could we not spread more Gardai across more checkpoint locations?
Would you like them to have a nice new black uniform with SS on their lapels . ?
 

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Should have them in Leinster house, some real crooks frequent there on a daily basis.
 
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mr. jings

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But if the army is patrolling the countryside, who's going to fight the armies of Satanists WO'D has been warning us about? :(
 

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Forget that loser- everyone knows Mattie MacGrath is biggest legend in Leinster House.
 

LamportsEdge

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Won't anyone think of poor Ned O'Keeffe? He was warning of a military takeover shortly before the last General Election (in between telling people in Rathcormac that he couldn't be bothered representing anyone there as there was 'no votes there' for him) and that poor man has been shtuck up in the piggery rafters since then with his hang sandwiches and the binoculars he found at Cheltenham that time- ever watchful for Zog in the shape of a Defence Forces Corporal and two lads from Trim scratching their arses as they motor over the horizon on a pincer movement to take Cork from behind.

'Ned. Come in, Ned.'

'Wha.'

'Surround that armoured car.'

It would be like Belgium all over again and only Ned there with the shotgun to halt the Fitzkrieg.
 
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