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“For the families of innocent victims of IRA terror, claims that the Irish state played a role in the deaths of their loved ones continue to persist unanswered,”

The senior garda’s investigations in 1991 only came to light at the tribunal as a result of evidence from a former RUC Deputy Assistant Chief Constable – Witness 68.

He had written a report which claimed a number of garda stations in Co Donegal were helping the IRA.



Read more: ‘We want to know how IRA got Garda file on my murdered brother’ - Belfast Newsletter
 

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“For the families of innocent victims of IRA terror, claims that the Irish state played a role in the deaths of their loved ones continue to persist unanswered,”

The senior garda’s investigations in 1991 only came to light at the tribunal as a result of evidence from a former RUC Deputy Assistant Chief Constable – Witness 68.

He had written a report which claimed a number of garda stations in Co Donegal were helping the IRA.



Read more: ‘We want to know how IRA got Garda file on my murdered brother’ - Belfast Newsletter

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“For the families of innocent victims of IRA terror, claims that the Irish state played a role in the deaths of their loved ones continue to persist unanswered,”

The senior garda’s investigations in 1991 only came to light at the tribunal as a result of evidence from a former RUC Deputy Assistant Chief Constable – Witness 68.

He had written a report which claimed a number of garda stations in Co Donegal were helping the IRA.



Read more: ‘We want to know how IRA got Garda file on my murdered brother’ - Belfast Newsletter
Diane Dodds MEP slammed Dublin’s refusal to engage with him - and others with similar cases.

“For the families of innocent victims of IRA terror, claims that the Irish state played a role in the deaths of their loved ones continue to persist unanswered,” she said.
Not for the first time, NI unionists are being very selective in the sort of truths they want to uncover, and the ones which they are content to have kept hidden, supposedly in the interests of British state security.
What Diane Dodds might well have added to that, but of course never will, is that the true role of the British state, its security forces (and indeed individual members of her own party), in the murder of many others also remains unanswered.
Let's bring it all out into the open. Let's open the government files on this, and Kingsmill, and Pat Finucane, and the Dublin/Monaghan bombings and all the other murders that took place where collusion is alleged.
Now who could possibly disagree with any of that?
 
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Slow day at work, Bridiot?

Oh wait, are you still long-term unemployable?
 

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Truth and reconciliation mexicant style...

Northern Ireland may sign up to a “lopsided” process which could frustrate probes into “the complicit role [of] the Irish government” in border IRA murders, it is claimed.

And the clear implication is, he said, that the proposed Stormont House Agreement processes will allow the Republic of Ireland to pick and choose what files it discloses for criminal investigations by the Historical Inquiries Unit – while in contrast the UK government pledges to provide “every scrap” of information.


However, he added that Irish security files could hold the key to many investigations “not least the IRA’s brutal murder campaign that took place along the border for decades and the complicit role the Irish government and its agencies had in it”.


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Truth and reconciliation mexicant style...

Northern Ireland may sign up to a “lopsided” process which could frustrate probes into “the complicit role [of] the Irish government” in border IRA murders, it is claimed.

And the clear implication is, he said, that the proposed Stormont House Agreement processes will allow the Republic of Ireland to pick and choose what files it discloses for criminal investigations by the Historical Inquiries Unit – while in contrast the UK government pledges to provide “every scrap” of information.


However, he added that Irish security files could hold the key to many investigations “not least the IRA’s brutal murder campaign that took place along the border for decades and the complicit role the Irish government and its agencies had in it”.
The Brits wouldn't hand over their files on the Dublin/Monaghan bombing collusion, so they're claim to hand over "every scrap of information" is bogus.
 

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The Brits wouldn't hand over their files on the Dublin/Monaghan bombing collusion, so they're claim to hand over "every scrap of information" is bogus.
From the same link Meanwhile, DUP leader Arlene Foster last night challenged the Irish foreign minister on why 60 out of 90 pages disclosed so far by Dublin on the Kingsmills massacre were only newspaper clippings.

So Vivy would you agree that both governments should be more forthcoming with information...
 

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“The IRA were free to come and go across the border and slaughter innocent men women and children throughout the Troubles,” he added. “Yet during the foot and mouth outbreak the Garda had every road sealed so tight you could not get a ham sandwich through.”

Mr Sproule also said the Garda Ombudsman met the family two years ago and were told there was a case to answer, but that the organisation has since failed to respond to all emails, letters and calls.

“We have been emailing the Irish government since 2013 and this is the first meeting we have had, so they can’t simply say they are up for this or that. I am not going to stop until the full truth is told.”


 

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“The IRA were free to come and go across the border and slaughter innocent men women and children throughout the Troubles,” he added. “Yet during the foot and mouth outbreak the Garda had every road sealed so tight you could not get a ham sandwich through.”

Mr Sproule also said the Garda Ombudsman met the family two years ago and were told there was a case to answer, but that the organisation has since failed to respond to all emails, letters and calls.

“We have been emailing the Irish government since 2013 and this is the first meeting we have had, so they can’t simply say they are up for this or that. I am not going to stop until the full truth is told.”


Is that yerself, Arlene?
 

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In 2012 it emerged at the Smithwick Tribunal in Dublin that former Garda Commissioner Noel Conroy had carried out an inquiry into claims of collusion in Co Donegal.

"If they have nothing to hide, why are the Irish government not going to show this report?"

"The Irish state has questions to answer. Mr Coveney agreed that this has been going on too long. This is not going to stop here,"

 

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So the Republicans prove state collusion and the unionists scream 'collusion' because themmuns said it. The Republicans want an Irish language act so unionists transform an accent into a language because themmuns have a language.

Why the government indulge these fantasists I don't know.

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So the Republicans prove state collusion and the unionists scream 'collusion' because themmuns said it. The Republicans want an Irish language act so unionists transform an accent into a language because themmuns have a language.

Why the government indulge these fantasists I don't know.

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Michael D in Drag for the day .
 

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Is this the loyalist response to collusion issues between loyalist paramilitaries and the British Government? If so, it is a bit sh1t.
 

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From the same link Meanwhile, DUP leader Arlene Foster last night challenged the Irish foreign minister on why 60 out of 90 pages disclosed so far by Dublin on the Kingsmills massacre were only newspaper clippings.

So Vivy would you agree that both governments should be more forthcoming with information...
Easy, so as not to enrage the Irish public
 

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In 2012 it emerged at the Smithwick Tribunal in Dublin that former Garda Commissioner Noel Conroy had carried out an inquiry into claims of collusion in Co Donegal.

"If they have nothing to hide, why are the Irish government not going to show this report?"

"The Irish state has questions to answer. Mr Coveney agreed that this has been going on too long. This is not going to stop here,"

Do you believe him when he claims his brother wasn't in the UVF/UDA?
 

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Is this the loyalist response to collusion issues between loyalist paramilitaries and the British Government? If so, it is a bit sh1t.
Or it's merely a reality that ye mexicants have yet to even begin to come to terms with...

I think that the army council had particular contacts with those in the security area

We had contacts in the law offices of the state and contacts in the upper echelons of the guards.

He described this alleged collusion as “widespread”.




 

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Do you believe him when he claims his brother wasn't in the UVF/UDA?
Tbh, I have no idea, I assume his brother knows better than you or I. Would it make the collusion ok if he was?...
 


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