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Football hooligans to avenge slain Brits

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Plans by an alliance of ''rightwing extremists'' and football hooligans to exact "revenge" on Muslims after last week's bomb attacks are being monitored by police.

The Guardian has learned that extremists are keen to cause widespread fear and injury with attacks on mosques and high-profile "anti-Muslim" events in the capital.



Football hooligans communicating over the internet have spoken of the need to put aside partisan support for teams and unite against Muslims. Hooligans from West Ham, Millwall, Crystal Palace and Arsenal are among those seeking to establish common cause.



As part of wider plans to generate a backlash, rightwing groups such as the Nationalist Alliance and the National Front are said to be planning marches. Extremists hope to hold a march along Victoria Embankment in London tomorrow.
It is also known that many mosques have received bomb threats since the attacks.

Attempts by the right to make capital out of the tragedy have created a powderkeg. Already extremist Islamist websites have told Muslims to be ready to retaliate.

The BNP sought to capitalise on last week's atrocities in its byelection literature in Barking, Essex, by reproducing a picture of the bombed No 30 bus with the headline Maybe Now it's Time to Listen to the BNP.

But the tactic backfired last night when Labour trounced the BNP, winning the Becontree byelection with 1,171 votes. The BNP received 378.

The BNP's tactic prompted cross-party condemnation. Though it was designed to increase support for the far-right, many believe the message may have been too crass and too badly timed to work. The party does, however, enjoy some support in the area.

Gerry Gable, of the anti- fascist organisation Searchlight, said: "There is no doubt that the far-right are playing this for all they think it is worth.

"If you look at the BNP website there's Nick Griffin saying 'be calm' and other material saying 'don't get angry, get even!'"

He added: "These things should be taken seriously. One site, Blood and Honour, had a posting about a mosque in the Wirral and soon after the mosque was hit. Soon after, the posting was taken down."

The police have pledged to crack down on any attempts to provoke division in the aftermath of the bombs. Members of Scotland Yard's independent advisory group have been asked to liaise with borough commanders in the capital to reassure the public and make sure the police carry out their pledges.

The Met has said from the outset that the bombs were an attack on all communities and that none should be scapegoated.

The synergy between rightwing extremists and football hooligans is not new. Throughout the 1980s, some of the biggest clubs in Britain were plagued by notoriously violent and racist followers.

Though virtually all clubs have since challenged the behaviour of extremist fans, and almost all now belong to the Kick Racism Out of Football initiative, violent followers continue to communicate with each other and supporters from other clubs to engineer confrontations.

The prospect of the opening day Championship fixture between Leeds and Millwall in August is already causing concern.



www.guardian.co.uk . . .
 


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Well all this might be true but papers like the Guardian and organisations like Searchlight are adept at playing up fears of the far Right (so called) being able to stir up racial hatred.


BTW 1100 or so votes for Labour and 378 for the BNP would not be considered good news for the Establishment if they were repeated across the board in a G.E. :shock:

I would have thought ol Nick Griffen would be reasonably satisfied with such a result. :wink:

Of course I don't know how many they got last time out so that would have to be taken into account as well.
 

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there all a bunch a nobs, but nice clothes though.
 

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They just don't make hooligans like they used to. It used to be Doc Martin boots and skinheads, (till the Gay people franchised the image).
Now it prancing about in sandals, tossing plastic chairs, and crying when arrested.
 

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There are those who would suggest that Britain's football hooligans have already spent years getting their retaliation in first. :shock:
 

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Bogwarrior said:
They just don't make hooligans like they used to. It used to be Doc Martin boots and skinheads, (till the Gay people franchised the image).
Now it prancing about in sandals, tossing plastic chairs, and crying when arrested.
Try Paul & Shark, Stone Island and Burberry, topped off with a nice Aquascutum raincoat. None of yer scruffy nonsense from the football casual about town these days.
 

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Reading the description it seems that the Lithuanian fans were more responsible for the aggro than the England fans. Lack of crowd segregation appears to be the underlying problem in this case. Its not a good idea of having crowds of boozed up supporters of opposing teams penned in together at a football match.

Lots of people with a few drinks on them mingle at GAA and rugby and most soccer matches (with one or two exceptions) here and there is rarely anything other than a few words exchanged. We just don't have that nasty thing going here.
 

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Reading the description it seems that the Lithuanian fans were more responsible for the aggro than the England fans. Lack of crowd segregation appears to be the underlying problem in this case. Its not a good idea of having crowds of boozed up supporters of opposing teams penned in together at a football match.
Well, the Lithuanian authorities will have the book thrown at them for not segregating fans but the English were not completely innocent.

Also, they were singing anti-IRA songs which I thought was a no-no.

 

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Lots of people with a few drinks on them mingle at GAA and rugby and most soccer matches (with one or two exceptions) here and there is rarely anything other than a few words exchanged. We just don't have that nasty thing going here.
It would be utterly unheard of to segregate fans at GAA matches.
 

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Well, the Lithuanian authorities will have the book thrown at them for not segregating fans but the English were not completely innocent.

Also, they were singing anti-IRA songs which I thought was a no-no.
Well I agree that should be a no-no, but that kind of carry-on is not going to inflame tensions in Lithuania. I dont know how common that is among England fans, when I went to see Ireland play England in Wembley a couple of years ago there was 80,000 there and I heard nothing along those lines, I was outside the official "Ireland fan" area and there were loads of other highly visible Ireland fans around as well and the interaction between opposing fans was of the banter kind that you might expect at a GAA/Rugby etc match.
 

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It would be utterly unheard of to segregate fans at GAA matches.

It would only cause trouble because "enemy" is some unknown chap at the far end! The Hill is obviously main spot for Dubs but there are always a large number of opposing supporters there for big games and never any trouble.

I met some of the English ones who were over for the recent friendly and they were grand. Asking about the photos on the wall in the pub. Loud and full of booze but well-behaved. But twenty lads tanked up all together is recipe for some sort of trouble if they meet similar. You just don't have that dynamic at sports here other than small number of cretins who follow one or two LOI clubs and the clubs themselves spurn them like rabid dogs. Even where clubs would hire buses for games away there is always a good mixture of ages and sex. Such groups tned not to want to 'kick off' with the "others" :)
 

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It would only cause trouble because "enemy" is some unknown chap at the far end! The Hill is obviously main spot for Dubs but there are always a large number of opposing supporters there for big games and never any trouble.
Of course, flasks and tinfoil wrapped sandwiches with nanny and grandad daytrippers out with the grandkids for a day down in the big schmoke.

Hardly a recipe for trouble is it?

Hardly a recipe for anything resembling a good atmosphere either, but sure......:D
 

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Well known that if you get a bunch of píssed up England national team supporters in a square that once the drink starts taking its toll there'll be trouble (this was even seen in Germany 2006). Very clannish the English on their away trips, particularly to tournaments, their idea of a bit of craic seems to be all standing together pointing and singing nationalistic songs at opposition fans. They don't mingle to the extent other fans do.

There'll be trouble at Euro 2016 from the English I'd bet, particularly if they play in Marseille, in France 98 they had it off with the city's Arab/Muslim population (burned the Tunisian flag and things got out of hand for 2-3 days). Considering events since then and the whole Muslim ''issue'' in England being far more exacerbated now compared to 1998, I wouldn't be surprised if they had a pop off the Muslims in Marseille again if they've to play there.

[video=youtube;18-tiD-lZRM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18-tiD-lZRM[/video]

England v Turkey in Marseille, there'd be absolute killings.
 
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