Football: Should this strange penalty have counted?



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My favorite part is that only the ref and the linesman were aware of the ball still being in play.
 

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It was still in play after all, after it rebounded from the bar.
It was a peno shoot out, in European matches the kicker can't kick in rebounds or saves by the keeper so why was it allowed?
 

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It was a peno shoot out, in European matches the kicker can't kick in rebounds or saves by the keeper so why was it allowed?
It was allowed because the kicker didn't kick (or head) in the rebound.

The first time I watched it I though that the rebound hit the kicker on the head. But it doesn't touch the kicker.

It would have been interesting if the rebound HAD hit the kicker on the head and then gone in. Would that have counted as "the kicker playing the ball"? Under the laws of the game the kicker isn't allowed to play the ball again, but as you can see in the video the kicker just stood there after taking the kick and the ball came back in his direction.

If the ball HAD hit the kicker on the head the kicker could argue that he made no attempt to play the ball, and that the ball hit him while he was standing still. A "ball hit the man" situation versus a "kicker played the ball" situation.
 

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My favorite part is that only the ref and the linesman were aware of the ball still being in play.
That raises an interesting point.

Is there any such thing as "in play" during a penalty shoot-out?

In regular play the ball becomes in play as soon as the kicker kicks the ball forward, but is there the same idea of in play during a penalty shoot-out?
 

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It would seem that is up to the referee to decide when the ball is dead after a penalty is taken in a PS, so when it is very unlikely that the ball would end up in the net. So in that case when the ball hit the ground and rebounded towards the goal he was right too wait too see if it would end up in the goal.
 

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It was a peno shoot out, in European matches the kicker can't kick in rebounds or saves by the keeper so why was it allowed?
Because the kicker didn't kick it on the rebound nor was it saved by the keeper.

That was an easy one.
 

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That raises an interesting point.

Is there any such thing as "in play" during a penalty shoot-out?

In regular play the ball becomes in play as soon as the kicker kicks the ball forward, but is there the same idea of in play during a penalty shoot-out?
Yes, it's the phase of play. From kick until ball goes dead.
 
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That raises an interesting point.

Is there any such thing as "in play" during a penalty shoot-out?

In regular play the ball becomes in play as soon as the kicker kicks the ball forward, but is there the same idea of in play during a penalty shoot-out?
Keeper stops it: out of play.

Shooter sends it wide: out of play.

Keeper saves or parries it off the post: out of play.

Shooter hits post and ball goes wide: out of play.

Shooter hits it in off the keeper: goal!

Shooter sends it in off the post: goal!

Shooter sends it in off the crossbar: goal! (which is what happened here).

Great stuff. Made even greater by the fact that they were far enough down the order that it was keeper vs keeper.
 

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Underselling the celebration by the kicker when it eventually goes over the line. No shame at all, celebrates like he nailed into the top corner.
 

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Previously No. But now yes.

A kick is successful if, having been touched once by the kicker, the ball crosses the goal line between the goal posts and under the crossbar, without touching any player, official, or outside agent other than the defending goalkeeper. The ball may touch the goalkeeper, goal posts, or crossbar any number of times before going into the goal as long as the referee believes the ball's motion is the result of the initial kick. This was clarified after an incident in the 1986 World Cup shoot-out between Brazil and France. Bruno Bellone's kick rebounded out off the post, hit goalkeeper Carlos's back, and subsequently bounced into the goal. Referee Ioan Igna gave the goal to France, and Brazil captain Edinho was booked for protesting that the kick should have been considered a miss as soon as it rebounded off the post. In 1987, the International Football Association Board clarified Law 14, covering penalty kicks, to support Igna's decision
 

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[video=youtube;ab3WF_e-J8M]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ab3WF_e-J8M[/video]
 

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Keeper stops it: out of play.

Shooter sends it wide: out of play.

Keeper saves or parries it off the post: out of play.

Shooter hits post and ball goes wide: out of play.

Shooter hits it in off the keeper: goal!

Shooter sends it in off the post: goal!

Shooter sends it in off the crossbar: goal! (which is what happened here).

Great stuff. Made even greater by the fact that they were far enough down the order that it was keeper vs keeper.
If the keeper parries it off the post into the goal it's a goal
If the shooter hits the post or crossbar and rebounds in off the keeper into the goal it's a goal
 

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Yes. It was a shoot out I'm assuming? The keeper didn't take possession of it, it didn't go out of play and the ball didn't stop moving. There have been a few of these but none quite as dramatic as that. I saw one where the keeper saved it and immediately jumped up to celebrate, but the ball just rebounded off the ground and crossed the line while he was celebrating. It never stopped. Goal!
 


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