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The Garda Siochana aren't sufficiently policing cyclists and E skateboarders who fly along footpaths without regard for pedestrians. In my typical 30 minute a day walks in Dublin beside roads with busy traffic, I'm often startled by these pests. Because E skateboarders are motionless and the board is not as visible as a cyclist, they can be on top of you before you realise they are moving fast. My quick reflexes enables me easily to avoid them but many elderly people in my position would suffer fright. There is a statistic that a car moving at a speed of 20 miles/32 kilometres an hour can kill a person on impact maybe 20% of the time. A fast moving cyclist in a collision with an elderly person would likely inflict serious injuries. This threat may deter the elderly from going out on walks on footpaths.
Would it be terribly difficult for a few gardai to put a stop to these errant cyclists and E skateboarders?
 

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The Garda Siochana aren't sufficiently policing cyclists and E skateboarders who fly along footpaths without regard for pedestrians. In my typical 30 minute a day walks in Dublin beside roads with busy traffic, I'm often startled by these pests. Because E skateboarders are motionless and the board is not as visible as a bicycle, they can be on top of you before you realise they are moving fast. My quick reflexes enables me easily to avoid them but many elderly people in my position would suffer fright. There is a statistic that a car moving at a speed of 20 miles/32 kilometres an hour can kill a person on impact maybe 20% of the time. A fast moving cyclist in a collision with an elderly person would likely inflict serious injuries. This threat may deter the elderly from going out on walks on footpaths.
Would it be terribly difficult for a few gardai to put a stop to these errant cyclists and E skateboarders?
Why not ask the authorities? They might be able to do something. We can do nothing.
 

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Unusually public-spirited of you, Pat. The only thing I can suggest is that we bring back the Sedan chair. That way the wealthy people who are all up early in the morning can arrange a zero-hours contract fellow in hi-viz equipment to hold up some bull-bars in case one of these subversives happens along at glide-speed.

The elderly you refer to. Would that be elderly on private pensions you are talking about or is it socialists we're discussing?
 

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Pat you sound like a 90 year old Jason Bourne.
 

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I did notice the reference to the ninja-style moves alright. Make a great cartoon segment with all the e-boarders coming at him like Space Invaders.
 

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There should be, like cycle-paths, a clearly delineated space on pavements reserved only for retired civil servants and other higher rate taxpayers who have paid tax at the higher rate for five years or more.

No-one else should be allowed step in it. Not even the Secretary of the Department of Finance should be allowed in it if they haven't the time served. The untermensch-, er, the electorate should have to walk sideways to work or the bus-stop so they don't step in the HRTP Lane by accident and end up with a chitty.
 

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Why not ask the authorities? They might be able to do something. We can do nothing.
Publicity would help. I suppose some elderly pensioner or a child will have to be killed or seriously injured in a collision to alert the public to the extent of the nuisance.
 

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Publicity would help. I suppose some elderly pensioner or a child will have to be killed in a collision to alert the public to the extent of the nuisance.
Precisely why I've been eagerly awaiting the delivery of the hover-board that Hollywood promised me back in the 1980s.
 

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There should be, like cycle-paths, a clearly delineated space on pavements reserved only for retired civil servants and other higher rate taxpayers who have paid tax at the higher rate for five years or more.

No-one else should be allowed step in it. Not even the Secretary of the Department of Finance should be allowed in it if they haven't the time served. The untermensch-, er, the electorate should have to walk sideways to work or the bus-stop so they don't step in the HRTP Lane by accident and end up with a chitty.
An attempt of humour even if it fails is worthwhile for cheerfullness. Keep trying!
 

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Precisely why I've been eagerly awaiting the delivery of the hover-board that Hollywood promised me back in the 1980s.
I have a spare one in the shed. I can send it on. It needs recharging frequently, though. The new one I have is greener. It tends to swerve violently when passing butchers' though. I haven't found a workaround.
 

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e scooters and e boards are a very dorky form of transport though I guess it can work if you had an awkward commute. At last there seems to be beginnings of some decent cycle lanes dotting up around Dublin. Yesterday it was announced that the Stand Road in Sandymount would be made one way to facilitate a proper cycle lane, da commuters will be fewmin.
 

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Surely the answer is to make e-scooters compulsory, like the TV licence?

And free for the over-65s?
 

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I think a distinction needs to be made between e-scooters using the footpath (bad), and e-scooters using a designated lane (good)
The problem is really the poor infrastructure available to cyclists and e-scooterists, ie if the choice is between rubbing shoulders with a lorry or with a pedestrian, which would you choose?

BTW, we have another, even worse problem coming down the line. An electric city bike rentals scheme for Dublin.
Now I have no problem with e-bikes, in the right hands. But no competent cyclist rents a bike in his own city, hence these schemes are only used by various classes of idiot.
An idiot powered only by his own idiocy can do only relatively little damage to himself or to others, but put an electric power cell under his ass....

This sort of thing is already common in holiday destinations....
 

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Did they manage to save the vocal chord in the end?
 

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If Pat has a thought about something, but doesn't start a thread about it, has he ever really had the thought at all?
 

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Normally Pat is anti-regulation, a red-tape cutter, wild, free, he stands on clifftops and can often be found looking windblown and romantic on the cornice of the IBEC office on weekends.

But here we have a Stalinist, Centralised Command policy suggestion which inhibits innovation, damages productivity and stifles the sustainably motorised pursuit of happiness. Pat, I fear, is going Red on us.
 

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I think a distinction needs to be made between e-scooters using the footpath (bad), and e-scooters using a designated lane (good)
The problem is really the poor infrastructure available to cyclists and e-scooterists, ie if the choice is between rubbing shoulders with a lorry or with a pedestrian, which would you choose?

BTW, we have another, even worse problem coming down the line. An electric city bike rentals scheme for Dublin.
Now I have no problem with e-bikes, in the right hands. But no competent cyclist rents a bike in his own city, hence these schemes are only used by various classes of idiot.
An idiot powered only by his own idiocy can do only relatively little damage to himself or to others, but put an electric power cell under his ass....

This sort of thing is already common in holiday destinations....
as a cyclist I don't mind e scooters, no different to a bike but as a pedestrian e scooter users have a habit of misusing paths and on path cycle lanes and are a menace if they come up behind you
Lots of tourists on e bikes sounds like chaos!
 

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There's a film script and pitch in this somewhere. 'Devil-Hoors On E-Scooters'. Bit 1950s but it is a work in progress.
 

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