Former principal charged with fraud over pupil numbers, court told.

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Ms O’Gorman is facing six charges under the Theft and Fraud Offences Act.

https://www.rte.ie/news/leinster/2018/0420/955962-school-fraud/

Did this case deserve such national media attention?
Ms O'Gorman did not, allegedly benefit personally from the overstating of funding application and it is also alleged that external audits and inspections were not carried for a number of years by Dept officials.

If she was a banker or developer and had the state on the hook for a few million or billion even, would she have been given as much air time?

Has any audit on the pupil performance been done on this school since to ascertain if the provision of these extra resources has had any positive results ?
 


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she had been overstating pupil numbers by a large amount for a number of years.

This led to extra teaching posts and grants to the school and the over-payment from the Department of Education was €450,000...
She should have been let off, the DEIS school that had to go without? Fukk it.
 

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She should have been let off, the DEIS school that had to go without? Fukk it.
The Dept of Education has to take some of the blame since they didn't even check on the number of pupils attending the school.

I thought schools had to be inspected once a year?
 

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She didn't benefit personally from what she did.

Crazy stuff that she is being held criminally liable.
 
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Assumed all State employees did these kind of things in one way or another ...
Not exactly corruption tho
 

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The Dept of Education has to take some of the blame since they didn't even check on the number of pupils attending the school.

I thought schools had to be inspected once a year?

From the article:-

'Judge Hughes asked if there had been any external inspector checking the roll and was told that there had not been an inspection at the school for a number of years'.
 

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I think the woman deserves a medal.She was being pro-active in teaching, for example pupils of hers who will be joining the Guards, the standards of accountacy that is expected in that august organization.:rolleyes:
 

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She didn't benefit personally from what she did.

Crazy stuff that she is being held criminally liable.
Would she not have increased pay as a result of more teachers/more pupils? She had more manpower too so less for her to do.
 

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3 principals ago - @7 yrs ago Our principal did some serious cooking of the numbers books. He had a number of children who had emigrated and many others on our books - family have a bit of reputation for ripping people off with dodgy car sales and engagement ring fraud in the area. Wonder if he is worried about this
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Surely the defendant is innocent until proven guilty. I will not be commenting till this trial has concluded.
 

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Assumed all State employees did these kind of things in one way or another ...
Not exactly corruption tho
It’s redirecting funds from schools that needed it through fraudulent means. If she did that, it’s clearly fraud.
 

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It’s redirecting funds from schools that needed it through fraudulent means. If she did that, it’s clearly fraud.
Kind of like the Catholic church do?
Fake/forced baptisms etc..
 
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Ms O’Gorman is facing six charges under the Theft and Fraud Offences Act.

https://www.rte.ie/news/leinster/2018/0420/955962-school-fraud/

Did this case deserve such national media attention?
It’s not exactly been overshadowing anything has it?

Ms O'Gorman did not, allegedly benefit personally from the overstating of funding application and it is also alleged that external audits and inspections were not carried for a number of years by Dept officials.
If she’s not guilty of the crime she’s accused of, her solicitor should be pushing that line. The above is partly a statement for sentencing nd partly offensively irrelevant.

If she was a banker or developer and had the state on the hook for a few million or billion even, would she have been given as much air time?
No. She’d have been given less.

Has any audit on the pupil performance been done on this school since to ascertain if the provision of these extra resources has had any positive results ?
That’s not the relevant marker. The relevant marker is: what did the next school on the list lose out on if she did fake the numbers. Those kids are the ones who have been ripped off.

Not “the state” or the education authorities or the inspectors who are somehow meant to now be responsible for individual wrongdoing.

This allegedly took money from children who have been defined as needing more to give to those defined as needing less. That should be a crime. And is.
 

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I think the woman deserves a medal.She was being pro-active in teaching, for example pupils of hers who will be joining the Guards, the standards of accountacy that is expected in that august organization.:rolleyes:

That’s a good point. And don’t forget bankers too, they need to know how to move billions around from one bank to another to falsify the bottom line and bring an entire check untrue to its knees. Court case ongoing and nobody will go to jail. (Hi David)
 

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Would she not have increased pay as a result of more teachers/more pupils? She had more manpower too so less for her to do.
Yes ..as would her colleagues , as she created Teaching posts which werent required.

Its corruption pure and simple ...and just another in the litany of examples of how the PS treat Taxpayers money with contempt

It appears to be an institutionalised problem and incurable
 

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What does "personal gain" mean? It does not necessarily constitute immediate financial benefit.
 


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