Former Welsh rugby player Gareth Thomas publically admits to having HIV



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From memory, he was openly gay . An odd choice for the 1980s MTV scene but maybe AIDS wasn’t a big deal when the program started. I’m sure his parents worried about him catching AIDS but doubt family of men like him, Freddie Mercury, the Rugby player etc are overly surprised. The boxer Tommy Morrison (appeared in Rocky V) is the only one who was a surprise.
The AIDS epidemic took the public by surprise when celebrities like Rock Hudson and Freddie Mercury died. I doubt if Hanley's parents had even heard of it up to a short time before he died.

Vincent Hanley was a breath of fresh air in 1980s Ireland - a country stifled by a new wave of fake piety after the visit of Pope John Paul II in 1980. May he rest in peace.

And, by the way, Gareth Thomas does not have AIDS. Learn the facts before you comment. He is taking the recommended treatment for HIV, and enjoys a high quality of life.

 

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The AIDS epidemic took the public by surprise when celebrities like Rock Hudson and Freddie Mercury died. I doubt if Hanley's parents had even heard of it up to a short time before he died.

Vincent Hanley was a breath of fresh air in 1980s Ireland - a country stifled by a new wave of fake piety after the visit of Pope John Paul II in 1980. May he rest in peace.

And, by the way, Gareth Thomas does not have AIDS. Learn the facts before you comment. He is taking the recommended treatment for HIV, and enjoys a high quality of life.

MTV wasn't available in Ireland then, and it was before Sky and Suoerchannel. If you couldn't get the Vritish channels RTE was your only telly, so MTUSA was a very big deal - it's easy to forget how shut-off culturally Ireland was at the time. Vincent Hanley came across as far more worldly and cosmopolitan than anything else on offer.
 

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What's totally simplistic is your deliberate suggestion that people stop having sex. Instead the solution is better education, free condoms, lots of testing etc.

Advocating abstinence is total bull and well you know it. It's got zero to do with our PC liberal times. Something you also know.
I never advocated for people to stop having sex . multiple partners and a hedonistic attitude to sex and lack of morals is contributing to the spraed of HIV.
 

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I never advocated for people to stop having sex . multiple partners and a hedonistic attitude to sex and lack of morals is contributing to the spraed of HIV.
What lack of morals do you mean?
 

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The AIDS epidemic took the public by surprise when celebrities like Rock Hudson and Freddie Mercury died. I doubt if Hanley's parents had even heard of it up to a short time before he died.

Vincent Hanley was a breath of fresh air in 1980s Ireland - a country stifled by a new wave of fake piety after the visit of Pope John Paul II in 1980. May he rest in peace.

And, by the way, Gareth Thomas does not have AIDS. Learn the facts before you comment. He is taking the recommended treatment for HIV, and enjoys a high quality of life.

Hanley was amazing. All young people looked forward to MT-USA every week. In the clip about his parents he was really really upset about the reporters telephoning his parents and upsetting them. They also tried to get information out of them.
 

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Hanley was amazing. All young people looked forward to MTUSA every week. In the clip about his parents he was really really upset about the reporters telephoneing his parents and upsetting them. They also tried to get information out of them.
I only have vague memories of him but remember the tv show, then gays began to drop like flies due to AIDS . They are promiscuous and older men meet boys in bushes for quickies , there’s even apps that tell you when one is close by for sex. It’s all a bit gross but I support the legalization of it as consenting people. Saw a programme on the great Freddie Mercury and regardless of his morals nobody deserves to suffer like that. Just today on RTE some gay TV star talking about his AIDS , these people really need to learn to control their impulses. Will be interesting to see how the rugby world reacts at a grass roots level. One famous guy guy and he has it so will the next openly gay guy be suspected?
 

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There's something very odd happening on this thread, and it's the same thing that happens on this site whenever the topic of homosexuality comes up...

It's the idea that "homosexuals are this, homosexuals do that" etc. Whether someone is gay or straight or whatever, it's irreverent for the vast majority of their daily life. It's irrelevant if the person servicing your car its gay or straight. It's irrelevant if your bank manager is gay or straight etc.

This concept that somehow a person's sexuality is what completely and utterly defines their character and behaviour, that it is the primary characteristic that dictates how they will behave, to the expulsion of all other factors, is somewhat surreal and complete nonsense.

Some gay people are promiscuous. Some are not. Some straight people are promiscuous, some are not. Some gay people like seafood, some do not. Some straight people ike seafood, some do not.

It is not whether the people are gay or straight that defines their character, their actions and their behaviour.
 

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There's something very odd happening on this thread, and it's the same thing that happens on this site whenever the topic of homosexuality comes up...

It's the idea that "homosexuals are this, homosexuals do that" etc. Whether someone is gay or straight or whatever, it's irreverent for the vast majority of their daily life. It's irrelevant if the person servicing your car its gay or straight. It's irrelevant if your bank manager is gay or straight etc.

This concept that somehow a person's sexuality is what completely and utterly defines their character and behaviour, that it is the primary characteristic that dictates how they will behave, to the expulsion of all other factors, is somewhat surreal and complete nonsense.

Some gay people are promiscuous. Some are not. Some straight people are promiscuous, some are not. Some gay people like seafood, some do not. Some straight people ike seafood, some do not.

It is not whether the people are gay or straight that defines their character, their actions and their behaviour.
I agree with you regarding the person servicing your car etc . However evry survey carried out indicates the promiscuity of gay men,. While homosexual men and stright women share acommin attrcation to men gay men tend to eb attracted to younger men for their physical attractiveness while hetro sexual women are attracted to older men preseumabaly with more of asocial leaning. Sureveys when the outbreak of Aids in the 80s provided evidence of many homosexula men having as high as 100s of contacts,
BTW while the concept of ones sexuality may not utter;ly define a person it is a very significant factor in defining/influencing many aspects of a persons life.
 

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There's something very odd happening on this thread, and it's the same thing that happens on this site whenever the topic of homosexuality comes up...

It's the idea that "homosexuals are this, homosexuals do that" etc. Whether someone is gay or straight or whatever, it's irreverent for the vast majority of their daily life. It's irrelevant if the person servicing your car its gay or straight. It's irrelevant if your bank manager is gay or straight etc.

This concept that somehow a person's sexuality is what completely and utterly defines their character and behaviour, that it is the primary characteristic that dictates how they will behave, to the expulsion of all other factors, is somewhat surreal and complete nonsense.

Some gay people are promiscuous. Some are not. Some straight people are promiscuous, some are not. Some gay people like seafood, some do not. Some straight people ike seafood, some do not.

It is not whether the people are gay or straight that defines their character, their actions and their behaviour.
Exactly- that is why one side should not be hyping up their sexuality and looking for a special recognition.
 

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Well this thread went down the tediously predictable route.

Angry old man whining about puffs. How fascinating
 

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Exactly- that is why one side should not be hyping up their sexuality and looking for a special recognition.
Hmm. the only side that is "hyping up sexuality" is yourself and a handful of other posters who seem terrified of the reality that homosexuality is both commonplace and quite normal.

The truth is that, for all you know, many of your work colleagues, neighbours, friends and family members may well be gay, and you would have absolutely no awareness of this.

Because it's completely irrelevant.
 

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Well this thread went down the tediously predictable route.

Angry old man whining about puffs. How fascinating
I presume by fascinating you mean painfully tedious shyte that get rehashed again and again and again?
 

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The thread was about a poof as you call them admiting he became HIV pos. due to his homosexual lifestyle, no one to blame but himself

To be fair to him he was not blaming anyone for his HIV diagnosis , he was complaining about a tabloid newspaper trying to expose him over the matter and doorstepping his parents etc. In that he had a valid point. The story is not in the public interest.
 

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The thread was about a poof as you call them admiting he became HIV pos. due to his homosexual lifestyle, no one to blame but himself
Perhaps we could simply say the truth here - he contracted the disease from another guy, which is unfortunate, but some blame must be attributed to the other guy too.
 

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The thread was about a poof as you call them admiting he became HIV pos. due to his homosexual lifestyle, no one to blame but himself
No,the thread is about a red top doorstepping his Mam to tell her he had HIV and they were running the story. The rest you filled in yourself.
 

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The thread was about a poof as you call them admiting he became HIV pos. due to his homosexual lifestyle, no one to blame but himself
Perhaps we could simply say the truth here - he contracted the disease from another guy, which is unfortunate, but some blame must be attributed to the other guy too.
Are hetereosexuals also to blame when they contract AIDS from one another, as they do on occasion?
 


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