Foxconn City - The Future is Now

goosebump

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Longhua Science & Technology Park in China, otherwise known as Foxconn City, is the manufacturing base of Foxconn, the company that makes everything from the iPhone to the Nintendo WII.



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Covering about 1.16 square miles (3 square km), it includes 15 factories, worker dormitories, a fire brigade, as well as a downtown complete with a grocery store, bank, restaurants, bookstore and hospital. Workers live, work and eat inside the complex, which broadcasts its own television network, Foxconn TV.

Approx. 450,000 people work in Foxconn city.

Meanwhile, back in Ireland, we pay people €8.65 per hour to operate a cash register in Tesco.
 


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Not really sure what you are getting at? Do you want human battery farms or less pay for checkout staff?
 

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Not really sure what you are getting at? Do you want human battery farms or less pay for checkout staff?
They're serious about being in business. We're not.
 

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Not really sure what you are getting at? Do you want human battery farms or less pay for checkout staff?
I'm not expressing a preference. Just highlighting the reality of a globalised world and the fact that manufacturing in Ireland is the economic equivalent of the corncrake, unless we want to start paying €2,000 a pop for our iPhones.
 

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Oh god what I would give to see employers bodies using this as an example when they are welcoming government initiatives while saying that they are lacking and calling for more as they seem to do when asked for any comment on anything.


We are in a recession. this is not an opportunity to forgo the rights of man in order to enthrone corporations and create some hybrid capitalist-Communist state taking the worst excesses of both systems. With the only goal being to increase production at the expense of all form of personal achievement or advancement.
 

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So you think we, sorry you! could learn from them?
One Foxconn here, One, would wipe out our entire unemployment problem. Yes, I think we have alot to learn from them. That is unless you like your neighbours being on the dole just so long as you're alright Jack.
 

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They're serious about being in business. We're not.
Ledroit are you endorsing the communist way of life? You and cael should have a big red love in.
We can never compete with this and nor should we even try. If we want to make money we design the products these people have to make. Even evil overlord Le droit cannot expect Irish people to live in dorms and get paid Chinese salaries can he?
 

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One Foxconn here, One, would wipe out our entire unemployment problem. Yes, I think we have alot to learn from them. That is unless you like your neighbours being on the dole just so long as you're alright Jack.
Not so sure if I would like them being slaves to a system, though I have to admit they already are albeit a lot better than the example!
 

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Oh god what I would give to see employers bodies using this as an example when they are welcoming government initiatives while saying that they are lacking and calling for more as they seem to do when asked for any comment on anything.


We are in a recession. this is not an opportunity to forgo the rights of man in order to enthrone corporations and create some hybrid capitalist-Communist state taking the worst excesses of both systems. With the only goal being to increase production at the expense of all form of personal achievement or advancement.
So what kind of phone do you have then?
 

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Ledroit are you endorsing the communist way of life? You and cael should have a big red love in.
We can never compete with this and nor should we even try. If we want to make money we design the products these people have to make. Even evil overlord Le droit cannot expect Irish people to live in dorms and get paid Chinese salaries can he?
China is not communist anymore. It's a capitalist dictatorship.

Why would working in that environment be worse than languishing on the dole; free food, free accommodation, and a productive life as opposed to being effectively told that you're not required by society.

PC lefties need to cop on and show a little humanity.
 

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If we want to make money we design the products these people have to make.
So what, we get 1 person to hold the pen and another 5 or 6 to move the paper beneath it?

And pay the lot of them €20 per hour?

I suppose Chinese people can't design stuff at all, can they? They're just good with screwdrivers and making curries?
 

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They're serious about being in business. We're not.
Do you have the answer that will alow us to compete with the Chinese? The yanks would pay a fortune for it.

This is your version of Caels communists utopian, it's out in that hemisphere. They have towns with bigger populations than our island.
 

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China is not communist anymore. It's a capitalist dictatorship.

Why would working in that environment be worse than languishing on the dole; free food, free accommodation, and a productive life as opposed to being effectively told that you're not required by society.

PC lefties need to cop on and show a little humanity.
TBH I see no difference between the society portrayed by the OP and what I live in!
 

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China is not communist anymore. It's a capitalist dictatorship.

Why would working in that environment be worse than languishing on the dole; free food, free accommodation, and a productive life as opposed to being effectively told that you're not required by society.

PC lefties need to cop on and show a little humanity.
Human battery farms! I was right the yanks would love it ofcourse you would have no problem with your children being a worker drone working to feed your standard of living?
 

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Well not everyone can be a designer obviously. More the idea that we move on from even attempting to compete with these people. Other jobs in IT data storage. R and D. Green energy. Create an Irish nokia rather than compete with china to build someone elses phone. They do make damn good curry though!
 

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Longhua Science & Technology Park in China, otherwise known as Foxconn City, is the manufacturing base of Foxconn, the company that makes everything from the iPhone to the Nintendo WII.



Foxconn City - Images | Thomas Lee

Covering about 1.16 square miles (3 square km), it includes 15 factories, worker dormitories, a fire brigade, as well as a downtown complete with a grocery store, bank, restaurants, bookstore and hospital. Workers live, work and eat inside the complex, which broadcasts its own television network, Foxconn TV.

Approx. 450,000 people work in Foxconn city.

Meanwhile, back in Ireland, we pay people €8.65 per hour to operate a cash register in Tesco.
After 12 of its employees committed suicide this year, most by leaping from company dormitories

Anonymous labor-abuse stories -- harsh working conditions and hours, subdued human interactions, constant monitoring, cold and rude management culture -- readily emerged from Foxconn's

in goosebumps and leDroits freemarket utopia these people are just numbers, unfortunate casualties in the hunt for bigger profits, plus they'd probably be glad of the job;)
 

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China is not communist anymore. It's a capitalist dictatorship.

Why would working in that environment be worse than languishing on the dole; free food, free accommodation, and a productive life as opposed to being effectively told that you're not required by society.

PC lefties need to cop on and show a little humanity.

Despite your protestations....China is still a communist counrty.....And is using the public sector/private sector solution to their advantage.....We need to look in this direction if we are to survive as a nation...
 

goosebump

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Well not everyone can be a designer obviously. More the idea that we move on from even attempting to compete with these people. Other jobs in IT data storage. R and D. Green energy. Create an Irish nokia rather than compete with china to build someone elses phone. They do make damn good curry though!
People who work in IT, R&D and Green Tech already have jobs.

The problem is employing the hundreds of thousands of people who have difficulty turning on a Playstation.
 


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