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France votes; Macron - v - Le Pen in the second round of voting for the presidency.

For whom would you vote in the 2nd round of the French Presidential election?


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Macron is president. "Bon courage", Hollande mouthed as he left.
 


TheMushyStuff

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[video=youtube;IAIHHgcAUj0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAIHHgcAUj0[/video]
 

flavirostris

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Breaking.. Macron announces new cabinet

 

Wessel

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Yanis Varoufakis has supported Macron in the second round of the election to negate the danger of the extreme right. But now he opposes him, in his pursuit of a pro-establishment, neoliberal agenda.
 

caledhel

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Interesting cabinet suggesting that Macron seeks a patriotic government beyond ideology. Je voudrais voir une France fort, honorable, ingénieux et sûr de soi encore. La Gauche est bête.
 

McDave

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Shouldn't be a problem in France, especially after the full veil vote in the French parliament.
 

McDave

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Marine Le Pen is expected to abandon her campaign for France to leave the European Union and bring back the franc, following her failed presidential bid against Emmanuel Macron.

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Both leaving the European Union and the euro were key policies set out by Ms Le Pen, despite a poll conducted just months ahead of the election showing that 72 per cent of French voters were against abandoning the euro.
Marine Le Pen to abandon

Well, well, well. How now brown cow. It seems Le Vache Qui Dit is about to abandon her poorly judged Frexit policy. Lots of P.ie Europhobes left with their derrieres out the window. Looks like Johnny-No-Mates Hard Brexitrons will soon only have the shoulders of Trump and Kaczinski to cry on.
 

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It might be interesting to see how a Euro-reformist, but otherwise far-right candidate does.

With Wilders and Le Pen, their position on Europe was used as a stick to beat them, but take that out and they may pick up more votes than they lose. That's particularly true in France, where their voting system might bring the anti-EU votes back to the FN in the second round.
 

McDave

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Fair point. Le Pen would have run Macron a lot closer or even won if she hadn't been advocating voter toxic Frexit. But moderation isn't the nature of that beast.

Things could be quite different in 5 years for Macron. However, they could be different for Le Pen too if the centre right can get the right candidate. Incidentally, you'd have to suspect an SPD led government in Germany in 5 years. That would in some ways favour the prospects of a centre right French president.
 

Antóin Mac Comháin

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They love their air-head NPD blondes, don't they ...
Like you love the youthful Macron.
Brigitte Macron says Melania Trump is ‘really fun’ but ‘can’t even go outside’



Brigitte Macron, wife of French President Emmanuel Macron, said though she is "really fun" her US counterpart First Lady Melania Trump "can’t go outside. She’s much more constrained than I am". - https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/brigitte-macron-melania-trump-first-lady-france-a8326436.html

If Macron wins the election, the onus will be on him to deliver, and not Le Pen, and it will be Hollande, Macron and the Fake Left who supported him who will suffer, and he will fail to deliver, because his policies on the Middle East are identical to Trumps.
You are a liar and nothing you say can be taken at face value.
''On Syria, as with most topics, Emmanuel Macron is certain he has made the right call. In a TV interview on Sunday night, the French president described Saturday’s strikes in Syria, led by the US, Britain and France, as “a military success”​.'' - https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/apr/17/france-intervention-syria-macron-french-president-strikes-tony-blair-iraq

Yea, maybe, but was I absolutely spot-on about Macron and Trump?

creditable links or go and ask me stones
Alternatively, they are making it up as they go along..
 

Antóin Mac Comháin

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Macron v Le Pen - Who's the Fascist and the warmonger now?

Marine Le Pen @ MLP_officiel May 10 More than ever, France must work for peace in the Middle East and de-escalation between belligerent states.

''At his Monday press conference, Macron said France had acted with “international legitimacy”, adding that despite not being sanctioned by the UN the operation was legitimate because Syria should have destroyed its chemical weapons arsenal under a 2013 UN resolution. In his Sunday night interview, Macron said his mandate to order a military strike “is given democratically to the president by the people in the presidential election”.''
 

Dame_Enda

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Disgraceful that they are prosecuting Le Pen for a twitter reply that showed IS atrocities. Same thing happening to a FN MP Gilbert Collard.

Marine Le Pen ordered to undergo psychiatric tests for posting Islamic State atrocity photos on Twitter

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The 50-year-old leader of the National Rally (formerly National Front), who lost to Emmanuel Macron in last year’s presidential vote, was stripped of her parliamentary immunity over the pictures and charged with circulating messages that “incite terrorism or pornography or seriously harm human dignity”.
 

stray creditor

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A bit of the Soviet Union about this, psychiatric tests for a person that doesn't toe the Party line.

The psychiatric tests should be for Nicolas Sarkozy for spearheading the Nato intervention in Libya; Libya is a Muslim country and is a tribal society, so it was obvious that intervention was going to lead to chaos.

Sarkozy also never gave a full and proper explanation of the financial donations he received from Ghadaffi.

Note, for those with liberal, left or neo-con views, there would be no such tests for them.
 

McDave

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A bit of the Soviet Union about this, psychiatric tests for a person that doesn't toe the Party line.

The psychiatric tests should be for Nicolas Sarkozy for spearheading the Nato intervention in Libya; Libya is a Muslim country and is a tribal society, so it was obvious that intervention was going to lead to chaos.

Sarkozy also never gave a full and proper explanation of the financial donations he received from Ghadaffi.

Note, for those with liberal, left or neo-con views, there would be no such tests for them.
A counterproductive move alright. Can’t say I like the woman (quite Yuk actually), but this crosses the separation of powers line.
 

petaljam

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A counterproductive move alright. Can’t say I like the woman (quite Yuk actually), but this crosses the separation of powers line.
No that's not what's happening there. It's a law against spreading terrorist propaganda on social media. It's a bit like posters here complaining about getting infracted when they have reposted something that is then removed for legal reasons - it doesn't matter that they were reposting to disagree with it, legal responsibility is incurred just by the act of posting.

The obligation to undergo psychological testing is a fairly standard thing for the accused in the French justice system. It's about not punishing someone who turns out not to be of sound mind. It's probably more common because the system is inquisitorial as opposed to the British (and therefore Irish) adversarial one so it's not supposed to have any pejorative aspect to it.
 
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No that's not what's happening there. It's a law against spreading terrorist propaganda on social media. It's a bit like posters here complaining about getting infracted when they have reposted something that is then removed for legal reasons - it doesn't matter that they were reposting to disagree with it, legal responsibility is incurred just by the act of posting.

The obligation to undergo psychological testing is a fairly standard thing for the accused in the French justice system. It's about not punishing someone who turns out not to be of sound mind. It's probably more common because the system is inquisitorial as opposed to the British (and therefore Irish) adversarial one so it's not supposed to have any pejorative aspect to it.
Please do not post on moderation matters on a thread on which you are engaged in the discussion, especially when a) the matter is unrelated to the thread topic and b) you seem unable to get it through your thick skull that the posts in question were not removed.
 

petaljam

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Please do not post on moderation matters on a thread on which you are engaged in the discussion, especially when a) the matter is unrelated to the thread topic and b) you seem unable to get it through your thick skull that the posts in question were not removed.
What posts in question?
 
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What posts in question?
The posts about which I complained concerning the fact that they were not moved. Have you managed to again confuse those with an earlier similar incident, as you did a few days ago? If you are modding with the same level of confusion you seem to be experiencing on this matter you should consider your position............. and see your doctor! It could be age-related but he will be better positioned than I to assess your little difficulty.
 


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