Frances Fitzgerald - a succession to Kenny?

VHF

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Time to talk about Frances Fitzgerald, grooming to become Kenny's replacement. Seems the other two options may not have the qualities required to lead.

So, is Fitzgerald a leader, a visionary, a risk taker - or is Fitzgerald another weak individual following in the foot steps of Kenny, weak, disliked, one dimensional, disconnected, uninspiring?

Discuss.
 


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Fitzgerald's most valuable attribute is that she is neither Varadkar nor Coveney.

Assuming the role of the proverbial "safe pair of hands", she is quite likely to be the agreed compromise a la Jack Lynch (who was chosen ahead of front-runners Haughey and Colley).
 

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VHF? More like WTF.

FF is where she is because she is a Kenny loyalist and a woman. That's the sum of her talents.
 

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The only thing she has going for is the female factor to allow her play on the first female leader angle , any male minister who has performed as poorly as her would not stand a chance, especially given the crisis in her department now with the guards.

She should not stand a chance either but PC stuff is huge these days and can take a mediocre performer like her very far.

As for the op , what risks , visions etc has she ever shown?

But given that FG picked someone like Kenny as leader , talent is obviously not a requirement.

As VB has joked(kind of) a few times , that if she keeps messing up like this she will certainly become FG leader.
 

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Hopefully she will meet the fate of Shatter and be forced out of office by this eternal Garda whistleblower scandal. Her hardline prohibitionist views on prostitution constitute an intrustive legislative imposition of the private lives of Irish citizens. Its old wine (conservative Catholicism) in new bottles (Second Wave Feminism).

She has failed to reverse the closure of Garda stations. The govts claim that crime didnt increase particularly where Garda stations were closed is undermines by the revelations the statistics were watered down by someone (see thejournal.ie a few weeks back).

Blueshirts considering her should remember the disasterous experience of FF with a managed succession from Bertie to Cowen. The Tory coronation of Michael Howard in 2001 likewise.
 
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Michael Martin will decide who will be the next Leader of FG short of a General Election

Its clear the weaker the vessel

- the more he can fill it up from his tank

- and she will be a very weak vessel.....
 

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Time to talk about Frances Fitzgerald, grooming to become Kenny's replacement. Seems the other two options may not have the qualities required to lead.

So, is Fitzgerald a leader, a visionary, a risk taker - or is Fitzgerald another weak individual following in the foot steps of Kenny, weak, disliked, one dimensional, disconnected, uninspiring?

Discuss.
As Clive Anderson said to Jeffrey archer; is there no beginning to her talents
 

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Fitzgerald is unimpressive but none of them have any particular accomplishments, the one they all brag about is the economy but all they did there was strictly follow the troikas rules handed down from FF.
The bits they had charge over were water charges, AGS, Seanad reforms, political reforms, reform of the law profession, HSE and local govt corruption and we all know how they "handled" all that.
Before some easily impressed twit starts on about the lizard-like Harris of the rapid-fire words... what are his accomplishments other then the startling master-stroke of getting anyone to vote for him?
 
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According to newspaper reports she is Kenny's chosen one and is fiercely loyal to him.

But given Kenny's current low standing that might not be such a positive thing for her chances.
 

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No
 

ShoutingIsLeadership

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When Kenny goes, if his successor throws her in the political bin, will anybody notice or complain? No.

That tells you how worthy she is of being Taoiseach.
 

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Important to remember it's a coalition government.
What Kenny feels may be his preferred replacement is one thing, he needs to discuss and secure mutual agreement from a coalition party partner.

Fitzgerald may be kite flying but another potential successor may be in incubation?
 

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Fitzgerald may be kite flying but another potential successor may be in incubation?
She is kite flying alright , there was an article in the Indo last week which was along the theme of how was the greatest living states person in the country etc etc , it was embarrassingly gushing. The same reporter had a similar article a while back.
 

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Probably appeals to the Fine Gombeen demographic but if the dead hand of Kenny remains on the tiller for much longer, FG is going to split into a more modern, urban-focused party and a gombeen party. FF was lucky in that it had a lot of similar problems dealt with when it was nearly obliterated in 2011 and the new FF is somewhat different to the pre-2011 FF. FG, under the village idiot Kenny failed to exploit the once in a centrury chance to finish FF but instead, FG actually facilitated the resurrection of FF. The last thing FG needs is another timeserver who thinks it is their turn to be Taoiseach.
 

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Elevating an insipid, right-on social worker to the Office of Taoiseach would secure Ireland's position as a nation run by and for public sector robber barons so I can see why she's still in the running.
 

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She has nothing to give except the maintenance of the status quo and even more surrender to Europe. Another empty suit who doesn't even have the ability (or maybe the desire) to tackle the pigs, despite being Minister for Justice.
 


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