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Antóin Mac Comháin

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Is that the one where the Ira hacked wounded prisoners to death with hatchets?
A British Army corporal who went on to support Hitler.

You must be proud?

That maybe so, but the Vietnamese Commander at the Battle of Dien Bien Phu, borrowed his tactics from Tom Barry.and the closer-quarter urban guerrilla tactics used by the Dublin IRA in Mount Street on Easter Week. There's a picture of the last surviving member of the Kilmichael Ambush on that particular video, who died two years before Hart claimed to have interviewed him, so pull the other one and catch someone else at the next corner with that one. Barry was a disciplined soldier, and he served in the Irish Army during WW-II, so you are wrong about him being a Hitler sympathizer. The attacks in Dublin were as crude as those depicted in the above video, and a lot of Citizen Army Volunteers lived in those particular flats. Technically they were residents lobbing bombs into the back of the Tan trucks. What Barry and Co got up to pales in significance in terms of savagery. I suppose that's what happens when you park a warship outside someones front garden and start lobbing shells at them, but Tom Barry was very critical of such people, which again suggests he wasn't half the savage you're trying to portray him as.
 

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Why do you think people who hack people with objects such as hatchets are totally unacceptable?
Historians have been arguing over Kilmichael since it never happened. The last survivor died two years after an alleged confession was made by someone that prisoners had been executed. I'm sure the poster is aware that they are lying.
 

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They probably learned it like the Vietnamese did at Down Benphu
Of course they did, because when Lenny and his chums weren't picking up harmless old drunks to torture over a lengthy period before a baying crowd for the crime of being Irish catholics, they were studying military history, with a particular emphasis on "Down Benphu".

Quite the student that Lenny Murphy, whatever became of him?
 

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That maybe so, but the Vietnamese Commander at the Battle of Dien Bien Phu, borrowed his tactics from Tom Barry.and the closer-quarter urban guerrilla tactics used by the Dublin IRA in Mount Street on Easter Week. There's a picture of the last surviving member of the Kilmichael Ambush on that particular video, who died two years before Hart claimed to have interviewed him, so pull the other one and catch someone else at the next corner with that one. Barry was a disciplined soldier, and he served in the Irish Army during WW-II, so you are wrong about him being a Hitler sympathizer. The attacks in Dublin were as crude as those depicted in the above video, and a lot of Citizen Army Volunteers lived in those particular flats. Technically they were residents lobbing bombs into the back of the Tan trucks. What Barry and Co got up to pales in significance in terms of savagery. I suppose that's what happens when you park a warship outside someones front garden and start lobbing shells at them, but Tom Barry was very critical of such people, which again suggests he wasn't half the savage you're trying to portray him as.
Eh? The Irish Army? How does that exclude him from sympathizing with Hitler? Didn't The Irish State weep collectively when Hitler blew his brains out?
 

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Of course they did, because when Lenny and his chums weren't picking up harmless old drunks to torture over a lengthy period before a baying crowd for the crime of being Irish catholics, they were studying military history, with a particular emphasis on "Down Benphu".

Quite the student that Lenny Murphy, whatever became of him?
How do you feel about "harmless old drunks" having their arms and legs blown off in a PIRA bomb? Or being blinded? Or having their balls blown off?

You'd be surprised what Loyalists studied - one notorious killer was a fan of Che...
 

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Terrorists. Do you mean "Catholic Freedom Fighters?"
Never heard tell of them.
Are you sure you aren't thinking of the Ulster Freedom Fighters?
 

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How do you feel about "harmless old drunks" having their arms and legs blown off in a PIRA bomb? Or being blinded? Or having their balls blown off?

You'd be surprised what Loyalists studied - one notorious killer was a fan of Che...
Awful, but not as awful as the prolonged deliberate torture and murder of harmless old drunks for the entertainment of a debased and depraved crowd.
 

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Awful, but not as awful as the prolonged deliberate torture and murder of harmless old drunks for the entertainment of a debased and depraved crowd.
I guess it depends doesn't it? I'd say it's better to be dragged up an alley to have your throat cut than to die over several days/weeks/months having been caught in a bomb - said death being also tortuous, just lasting a lot longer.
 

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I guess it depends doesn't it? I'd say it's better to be dragged up an alley to have your throat cut than to die over several days/weeks/months having been caught in a bomb - said death being also tortuous, just lasting a lot longer.
Have you given this a lot of thought?
 

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Eh? The Irish Army? How does that exclude him from sympathizing with Hitler? Didn't The Irish State weep collectively when Hitler blew his brains out?
Yip! He resigned from the IRA around 1937 and he served in the 26th Battalion during WW2, which was made up of old IRA Volunteers from the War of Independence and the Civil War period, and they would have organized the defense of the country in the event of an invasion by the Germans. You may see them as a Dads Army, but they were the people who drove the British out of the south, so they were experienced soldiers. Barry supported attacks against the British in the 6 Counties and wanted to organize Flying Columns to carry out attacks, up until that point in time, and he resigned because he disagreed with the England Campaign being planned by Russell. Again, that points to someone who was too disciplined to engage in the type of activity his men were accused of at the Kilmichael Ambush, which is a complete fabrication of history. If you read the Witness Statements of participants from Cork and Limerick you will see that most of them were armed with shotguns during those type of ambushes. There's no mention of hatchets, whereas the Dublin people were willing to use weapons which were as simple as petrol bombs, which is a savage form of war, but it stopped them from driving around in open top trucks, and the British then sent mechanized vehicles, but they couldn't replace each and every one, so it was an extremely successful tactic.
 


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