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Gardai need to shoot before they shout a warning to win a Gunfight!


Bobcolebrooke

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Gardai need to shoot before they shout a warning to win a Gunfight!

Our Gardai are under standing orders to shout a warning before using firearms. The time it takes to shout "Armed Gardai put down your gun (please)" would give an armed opponent enough time to shoot the garda a number of times before the warning is completed.


At an average speaking rate of 120 words a minute the warning would take two to three seconds to issue. That is an awful handicap for a Garda in a gun fight!

Gardai must be given much more latitude in using firearms. Essentially they must be allowed to shoot people who are visibly caring firearms in public places on sight!

Members of the public carrying guns in public places should carry them in gun cases if they are carrying them to a gun dealer or to a hunting field, target range etc.

The Minister should amend the law to allow them shoot without warning when they consider their lives in danger!
 
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Mr. Bumble

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Gardai need to shoot before they shout a warning to win a Gunfight!

Our Gardai are under standing orders to shout a warning before using firearms. The time it takes to shout "Armed Gardai put down your gun (please)" would give an armed opponent enough time to shoot the garda a number of times before the warning is completed.


At an average speaking rate of 120 words a minute the warning would take two to three seconds to issue. That is an awful handicap for a Garda in a gun fight!

Gardai must be given much more latitude in using firearms. Essentially they must be allowed to shoot people who are visibly caring firearms in public places on sight!

Members of the public carrying guns in public places should carry them in gun cases if they are carrying them to a gun dealer or to a hunting field, target range etc.
Are you trying to be funny?
 

statsman

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Gardai need to shoot before they shout a warning to win a Gunfight!

Our Gardai are under standing orders to shout a warning before using firearms. The time it takes to shout "Armed Gardai put down your gun (please)" would give an armed opponent enough time to shoot the garda a number of times before the warning is completed.


At an average speaking rate of 120 words a minute the warning would take two to three seconds to issue. That is an awful handicap for a Garda in a gun fight!

Gardai must be given much more latitude in using firearms. Essentially they must be allowed to shoot people who are visibly caring firearms in public places on sight!

Members of the public carrying guns in public places should carry them in gun cases if they are carrying them to a gun dealer or to a hunting field, target range etc.
Could you at least provide an occasional link in these OPs?

Police 'shoot to kill' policies have an unhappy history in Ireland.
 

Mossy Heneberry

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Gardai need to shoot before they shout a warning to win a Gunfight!

Our Gardai are under standing orders to shout a warning before using firearms. The time it takes to shout "Armed Gardai put down your gun (please)" would give an armed opponent enough time to shoot the garda a number of times before the warning is completed.


At an average speaking rate of 120 words a minute the warning would take two to three seconds to issue. That is an awful handicap for a Garda in a gun fight!

Gardai must be given much more latitude in using firearms. Essentially they must be allowed to shoot people who are visibly caring firearms in public places on sight!

Members of the public carrying guns in public places should carry them in gun cases if they are carrying them to a gun dealer or to a hunting field, target range etc.
You need to start thinking with your brain before you start shooting your mouth off.
 

harshreality

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Even the most trigger happy police department in the US of A have to issue a warning before shooting.

Why should we be any different?
 

cabledude

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O.P are you for real. You started a very interesting thread in the last number of days about bullet proof vests. Fair enough. But to start a thread about Gardaí firing on people without warning, while a slain Garda lies in a coffin awaiting burial is unbelievable. Are you completely daft? No police force should ever fire without warning.
 

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Gardai need to shoot before they shout a warning to win a Gunfight!

Our Gardai are under standing orders to shout a warning before using firearms. The time it takes to shout "Armed Gardai put down your gun (please)" would give an armed opponent enough time to shoot the garda a number of times before the warning is completed.


At an average speaking rate of 120 words a minute the warning would take two to three seconds to issue. That is an awful handicap for a Garda in a gun fight!

Gardai must be given much more latitude in using firearms. Essentially they must be allowed to shoot people who are visibly caring firearms in public places on sight!

Members of the public carrying guns in public places should carry them in gun cases if they are carrying them to a gun dealer or to a hunting field, target range etc.
can you provide a link to the garda rules of engagement, and specifically the ones that relate to clear and present danger so we can discuss properly and see if theyre lacking
 

Bobcolebrooke

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O.P are you for real. You started a very interesting thread in the last number of days about bullet proof vests. Fair enough. But to start a thread about Gardaí firing on people without warning, while a slain Garda lies in a coffin awaiting burial is unbelievable. Are you completely daft? No police force should ever fire without warning.
If they wait to deliver a warning they will be shot before they complete the warning.
 

zakalwe1

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i think they should replace it with a drawling, snarling, lip curled..
"do ya feel lucky, punk?"
before letting fly with their magnum smith & wesson model 29's (the most powerful handgun in the world)...

but i reckon being uttered in a tullamore accent would detract from its effectiveness
 

statsman

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Even the most trigger happy police department in the US of A have to issue a warning before shooting.

Why should we be any different?
Well, because, you know, and, em, it's like, sure, that's why.
 

Bobcolebrooke

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can you provide a link to the garda rules of engagement, and specifically the ones that relate to clear and present danger so we can discuss properly and see if theyre lacking
I only have the information from a Detective Inspector and a Detective Sergeant!

Do you think criminals will shout a warning before they fire?
 

topcat4

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I understand the sentiments of the OP , given the recent tragic death of a Garda in Dundalk.

But really what the OP is suggesting would be a bloody OK Corral type scenario, I don't speak for the Guards (obviously) but I doubt they would favour a suggestion like the OP's.
 

Hitch 22

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Words can kill too ya know!

[video=youtube;fsX_L-7w4r4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=fvwp&v=fsX_L-7w4r4&NR=1[/video]
 

zakalwe1

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If they wait to deliver a warning they will be stot before they complete the warning.
if they are saying it with handguns drawn and aimed at the suspect, then i think it shouldn't matter...
if they are in the middle of a town street between the brothal and the saloon, standing in the dust, chewing a matchstick, gun in belt, fingers twitching, waiting for the other fellow to draw before *BANG*....the look of bewilderment on the outlaw's face turns to fear as he slumps to the ground....the garda's chiseled face, the badge/shield glistening in the sun....the townfolk cheer! the reign of terror is over....

where was i? oh yes, absolutely ridiculous suggestion by the OP
 

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