Gerald Kaufman RIP

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https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/feb/26/sir-gerald-kaufman-labour-mp-for-manchester-gorton-dies-aged-86

A good man who wasn't afraid to stand up for the oppressed.

RIP Gerald.



https://en.m.wikiquote.org/wiki/Gerald_Kaufman

My grandmother was ill in bed when the Nazis came to her home town of Staszów. A German soldier shot her dead in her bed. Madam Deputy Speaker, my grandmother did not die to provide cover for Israeli soldiers murdering Palestinian grandmothers in Gaza. The present Israeli government ruthlessly and cynically exploit the continuing guilt among Gentiles over the slaughter of Jews in the Holocaust as justification for their murder of Palestinians. The implication is that Jewish lives are precious, but the lives of Palestinians do not count. On Sky News a few days ago, the spokeswoman for the Israeli Army Major Livovich was asked about the Israeli killing of, at that time, eight hundred Palestinians. The total is now a thousand. She replied instantly, "Five hundred of them were militants." That was the reply of a Nazi. I suppose the Jews fighting for their lives in the Warsaw Ghetto could have been dismissed as militants.
 
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whisper.. whisper..
 

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And so dies a corrupt left winger who had no problem in criticising the only Jewish country in the world but was largely silent on the many real injustices that happen every day in the moslem world. A very confused man it seems. The world is not poorer with his death.
 

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He loved Israel and was friends with several of its early prime ministers. What he did was criticise the crimes of the Israeli state and support its victims.
What crimes? Defending itself from Islamic genocide?

He had no problems in being chummy with Iraq under Sadam Hussein while they were butchering 100,000s. As usual from the loony left complete hypocrisy is the rule.
 

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What crimes? Defending itself from Islamic genocide?

He had no problems in being chummy with Iraq under Sadam Hussein while they were butchering 100,000s. As usual from the loony left complete hypocrisy is the rule.
Didn't he vote for the invasion?
 

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A powerful message many on p.ie would do well to reflect on.
 

EoinMag

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He loved Israel and was friends with several of its early prime ministers. What he did was criticise the crimes of the Israeli state and support its victims.

Thing is, they are so twisted that they can't even recognise the real Israeli patriots anymore.

You're wasting your time.
 

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And so dies a corrupt left winger who had no problem in criticising the only Jewish country in the world but was largely silent on the many real injustices that happen every day in the moslem world. A very confused man it seems. The world is not poorer with his death.
Are you in favour of theocracies in general? Would you like to see more Muslim, Christian, Buddist or Hindu theocracies or are you only in favour of the Jewish one in Israel?
 

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Are you in favour of theocracies in general? Would you like to see more Muslim, Christian, Buddist or Hindu theocracies or are you only in favour of the Jewish one in Israel?
Israel is not a theocracy. Kaufman was exhibit A in showing how left wing ideologues have zero moral compass.
 

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Didn't he vote for the invasion?
He certainly did vote for it, but he had no problem in being friendly to them in the 1980s. He was a hypocrite.



If you're seriously asking that question then it's either through ignorance or denial.
No, all Israel have done is defend themselves against terrorism and genocide. Any crimes they have committed have been small ones, and especially when compared to their neighbours.

Are you in favour of theocracies in general? Would you like to see more Muslim, Christian, Buddist or Hindu theocracies or are you only in favour of the Jewish one in Israel?
You should learn what a word means before you use it Levellers. A theocracy is a system of government in which priests rule in the name of God or a god. Present day Israel is clearly not this.
 

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I’ve been lead to believe that Hamas are going to be ruffians, illiterate…but if you were to meet the democratically elected Hamas leader…[they] were ‘elegant, beautifully dressed, beautifully spoken’

Kaufman did add this:

…although he emphasised this did not make up for what Hamas had done in the past
 

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What Israel has done is destroy the Palestinian state while keeping the Palestinians oppressed by means of state terror.
Israel has been the biggest champion of "palestinian" statehood in the region and the palestianians enjoy a quality of life which is superior to most others in the region on account of Israel's help.

If the palestinians really want to be "free" of Israel they should stop buying Israeli power :p
 

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You're in pure fantasy land now.

I notice you don't use a capital P for Palestinian either, and even put scare quotes around the word...

Nuff said!
You cannot deal with the fact that Israel has every right to defend itself from genocide and terrorism so instead you focus is on whether upper or lower cases are used for certain words. That's laughable. They obviously didn't teach you much in the way of how to argue at Hezbollah boot camp did they?
 

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They are too busy polishing their SS daggers
No, cleaning & polishing the auld SS dagger & Luger is done on Saturdays. Monday is reserved for pressing the deaths head uniform and jodhpurs along with waxing the riding boots.

Meh, another pallywood surrender monkey passes. The only people who will care are of the same persuasion.

Now, back to me goose stepping spinning class. :)
 

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You should learn what a word means before you use it Levellers. A theocracy is a system of government in which priests rule in the name of God or a god. Present day Israel is clearly not this.
You yourself called it a 'Jewish country'. The Rabbinic Courts are part of the official state judiciary.
 


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