There wouldn't be quite so many Jews threatening to leave the British Labour Party unless they'd found a welcoming place within.The Haskalah. Anyway those days are long past now.
Yeah, but in the context of what we're talking about, the equivalent is setting up your soap-box in the middle of a mob.
Who's in that mob? Taking just the currently highly topical online mob alone (the so called "far-right"), they are typically young and middle aged men, frustrated by the inferiority of their achievements, binging online for hours every day, self-medicating, visiting right-wing anti-government websites and conspiracy hatcheries, graduating to sites like political irish where they learn their celtic race and culture is endangered — a target of “white genocide, with Jews, gays, libtards and multiculturalism conspiring to undermine him etc.
They are a mob strongly imbued with their own sense of "injustice" - injustices and "wrongs" that they are set to put to right as "patriots", even to exact retribution for - they imagine they will "fight to save their country" and "awaken the sheepish masses", do away with the current "regime" etc. etc.
You think you can have a rational argument with a mob like that? A debate? Well you fail to appreciate the basic anatomy of the problem that governments and people worldwide understand has become urgent to address.
About the same use as contradicting a communist, or any other form of authoritarian person, when they send you to their concentration camp.What use is contradicting a fascist when they send you to a concentration camp?
I'm saying that people shouldn't wait until the fascists have bullets before they start throwing punches.About the same use as contradicting a communist, or any other form of authoritarian person, when they send you to their concentration camp.
I may be uninformed, but I haven't seen any concentration camps in the UK, or the Republic Of Ireland. So some stupid supporter of fascism, communism, or some other -ism can't send me to any concentration camp. Are you saying that people should just thump them when they say stuff?
To the barricades comrades! The fascists are coming!I'm saying that people shouldn't wait until the fascists have bullets before they start throwing punches.
Lazy thinking.Antifa are certainly Fascists .
As regards the radical left in general it certainly comes close, even considering the difficulty of defining fascism.Those who oppose fascists (including people like Antifa who take direct action and have no democratic mandate) are not fascists. They may be thugs, and they may be undemocratic (even anti-democratic), but that is not fascism.
So they are mirror image of Fascists ! Left Fascists .Lazy thinking.
Those who advocate and take part in direct action (without any democratic mandate) are not fascists - that is not what defines a fascist,
Fascism is a far-right, authoritarian, usually ultra-nationalist political philosophy. Nothing else is fascism. Dictators can come from elsewhere in the political spectrum, but they are not fascists - e.g. Stalin and Mao were not fascists. Now you can say that is a moot point to their victims, but this is a political discussion board, and here these things should matter.
Those who oppose fascists (including people like Antifa who take direct action and have no democratic mandate) are not fascists. They may be thugs, and they may be undemocratic (even anti-democratic), but that is not fascism.
Left Fascists seems perfectly sensible .No they are not mirror images of fascists. They may be equally as odious, but they are different.
The only people who want to call the extreme left fascists are those who seek to diffuse, disguise and debase the meaning of that word. The word fascist belongs to the right, and only the right.
The "kill-count" is irrelevant.
The extremes on both sides look and act very similar, Stalin was as dangerous and bloodthirsty as Hitler was.So they are mirror image of Fascists ! Left Fascists .
Why does the left not admit they have the mirror image of Fascists .
Did Stalin , Mao and others not kill enough people . Actually far more than the Right have killed .
The Left is just as dangerous if not more dangerous than the Right .The extremes on both sides look and act very similar, Stalin was as dangerous and bloodthirsty as Hitler was.
The difference is in the definitions of Fascism and Socialism that's all.
The idea of Socialism is actually quite a good idea, but it never worked. George Orwell's "Animal Farm" shows how it fails miserably, power and wealth go to people's heads and then it all gets dictatorial and pear shaped.
In a nutshell.
Come on now, you are talking about extremists and people killing - We all have a leaning one way or the other, I lean towards the left but I don't go about killing people who don't agree with me. I can also get along with and have some fantastic discussions with friends who lean to the right.The Left is just as dangerous if not more dangerous than the Right .
I suggest the Left comes up with a good name for their Fascists or are they happy with Mass Murderers . After all they have killed far more than the Right .