Gerry McCabe: Enemy of Ireland?

LeDroit

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Just watched a documentary about the execution of Garda Gerry McCabe in Adare in 1996. As most will remember, both Gda McCabe and his partner Gda Ben OSullivan were sitting in their parked, unmarked car escorting a postal van in Limerick. The IRA unit, with designs on robbing the postal van, rammed the Garda car from behind, jumped out and riddled the two Gardai who were still sitting in the car with AK47s. Neither Garda had drawn a weapon.

We have all heard the line that the IRA had to engage in criminality, (bank robbery, drug running, cigarette smuggling, protection rackets etc), in order to fund 'the cause', and their supporters would accept the line that murdering policemen in the North was simply an attack on their British enemies.

But the question I was left with having watched the documentary was, what possible legitimacy could the IRA offer for killing an unarmed Irish policeman sitting in a car in the Irish Republic? Why would they not just point the gun at him, threaten him while the robbery took place? Were they frightened of him? Or did they deliberately want to kill him, did the IRA see him as an enemy of Ireland?
 


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what possible legitimacy could the IRA offer for killing an unarmed Irish policeman sitting in a car in the Irish Republic?
The police service of an illegitimate government, no doubt, or some such nonsense. THere's always a justification if you're willing to use your imagination, or indeed, to rely heavily on it.
 

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There is some confusion as to the status of this robbery.

Was it an IRA operation or was it IRA men 'moonlighting' ?
It would appear that the murder of Jerry McCabe was sanctioned by the IRA and approved of by Sinn Fein after the fact because who will ever forget Gerry Adams vehement denial of any connection with the attempted robbery and killing of Garda Jerry McCabe to the IRA in the immediate aftermath of his murder in Adare.
 

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There is some confusion as to the status of this robbery.
It was never intended as a robbery - it would have taken all of 20 seconds to rifle the post office truck of the money it was carrying - the IRA unit never even looked at the truck, never mind attempt to rob it. The attack was designed and carried out as an assassination attempt.

Was it an IRA operation or was it IRA men 'moonlighting' ?
Yes it was an IRA operation - there was some splits in the IRA at the time over the strategy of Adams and McGuinness, so while some people in authority knew about the attack it may not have been officially sanctioned. This operation had a two-fold purpose - 1. send a meesage to the local cops to stop harrassing local republicans - 2. send a warning shot across the bows of Adams and McGuinness that they could not take the IRA active service units for granted.
 

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And remember there were efforts to release his murderers under the GFA. Witnesses were intimidated not to give evidence- hence the manslaughter conviction. And remember the way Ferris tried to influence their release. He was there the day of their release and blocked journalists from pursuing them by parking his van on a narrow road. And who was in command of the southern region at the time of this killing I wonder. They got every facility in jail, were let live in the bungalows in Castlerea, cook their own meals, have Chinese takeaways delivered, have "visits" from their women folk etc. All for political prisoners who killed a servant of this state. It was no moonlighting job, otherwise the IRA under Adams and Ferris would have dumped on them and probably knee- capped them
 

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They do not recognise the Irish state .

This was a solo act . We had already accepted the unconditional surrender of the PIRA.
 

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And the result was every provo in the limerick/cork/kerry area was rounded up, and charged with membership. Unusually, when charged, many provos admitted involvement and pleaded guilty. In effect it ended provo activity in the 26 counties.(apart from activity within prison walls).
 

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Was it an IRA operation or was it IRA men 'moonlighting' ?
It does not matter, they are all criminals who were dedicated to the violent overthrow of the Irish state. They were also dedicated to expropriating others property through theft. You see it was murderous acts like Adare that showed that the brave boys of the IRA were common criminals.
 

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It would appear that the murder of Jerry McCabe was sanctioned by the IRA and approved of by Sinn Fein after the fact because who will ever forget Gerry Adams vehement denial of any connection with the attempted robbery and killing of Garda Jerry McCabe to the IRA in the immediate aftermath of his murder in Adare.
The last thing I heard was that it wasn't sanctioned by central command but it was claimed that it was sanctioned at local level.
 

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As far as I am aware it was also to settle an old score. The late Jerry McCabe was a member of the special branch in Munster. The said special branch were responsible for the ill treatment of republicans
 
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But they're in the Dail!!
As usual with these cowards they employ double standards . They changed their view of sitting in the Dail in the 80's . They believed that they were the true government and army of Ireland . The cops were just propping up British rule in the North .
 

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You couldn't have checked any of the 101 threads already here dealing with the killing of Garda Mc Cabe ?

Or checked the 1001 threads that refer to it ?

I'll try to answer your questions, but Lord knows I will probably bring all kinds of crap down on my head if I don't seem like I am deifying the deceased Garda

1. The IRA never claimed the killing was legitimate.

2. In fact, initially, the IRA claimed no responsibility for the operation whatsoever.

3. Once it became clear, that IRA members of the Munster Command were involved, the IRA accepted responsibility for the volunteers involved (though I don't know why people get hung up on this issue actually. Those who disagree with the IRA constantly claim that the IRA has no legitimacy, but they get very upset if the IRA deny responsibility or accountability for actions of its members)

4. The two detectives were not unarmed. Special Branch detectives carry automatic weapons, and on the morning of the shooting, they were armed with Smith and Wesson .38 revolvers and an Uzi machine gun. The trial concluded that although armed, they did not have time to draw their weapons, however in mitigation, the men who killed Jerry Mc Cabe claimed that they had seen a weapon been drawn, and that this was the reason for firing on the Gardai.

I am not excusing what they did. I think what they did was wrong. I am just answering your questions

5. Yes they were frightened of the Gardai. They knew Special Branch Gardai carried weapons.

6. Whether or not they intended to kill the Gardai deliberately or not, will never be known. The Court accepted a manslaughter plea, and it was generally recognised that they would not have been able to prosecute a murder case successfully.

People will now come on and claim that this was because of witness intimidation, which I believe did occur in the case, and a man was sentenced to jail for refusing to co-operate with the Gardai. However, that man was not at the scene of the shooting, so I fail see what difference his evidence would have made to the case been prosecuted as murder or manslaughter

7. The people who killed Jerry Mc Cabe made an apology to the family, albeit 9 years later.

8. The detectives name was "Jerry" Mc Cabe, not "Gerry" Mc Cabe. Jeremiah rather than Gerard. It often surprises me, that those who get so indignant over the mans death, never seem to bother finding out his real name.
 

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You couldn't have checked any of the 101 threads already here dealing with the killing of Garda Mc Cabe ?

Or checked the 1001 threads that refer to it ?

I'll try to answer your questions, but Lord knows I will probably bring all kinds of crap down on my head if I don't seem like I am deifying the deceased Garda

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Wow!

I'm so sorry for upsetting you. Your reaction- indignant and exasperated- is stunning and incredibly telling. That's the most unapologetic rationalisation of a callous, heinous act I've ever heard. Your contempt for my legitimate questions is barely concealed. Sorry there's 'another' thread on this. Perhaps anyone who 'still' wants to talk about this should just read old threads and then you wouldn't have to explain yourself again and you wouldn't have to be reminded of this. I note there are very few fellow Shinners coming on defending things so I think we can all see why now.

And, apologies for the typo with Jerry's name. Your infallibility is difficult to live up to.
 

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The last thing I heard was that it wasn't sanctioned by central command but it was claimed that it was sanctioned at local level.
Central command, local level? Are you a comedian? These men were not soldiers, they were common criminals, more like the drug dealers that terrorize our streets than the people who police the same streets.
 

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The IRA and Sinn Fein are a criminal organisation . The IRA / SF used criminal sociopaths to carry out their war . These guys went on a bank robbery that went wrong . They panicked and executed a Cop . It blew up in Sinn Feins face and they went down the usual road of " the dog ate my homework "

ROC has a post that is long and full of explaination but yet fails to call it what it was ' wanton murder '

This was a pain in the ass for the IRA / SF in the North at the time . They were trying to surrender without a loss of face . The British had mastered collusion and had brought the war to the doorsteps of the Godfathers of the IRA / SF .

It has been rumoured that if the IRA / SF had not annouced their first ceasefire the SAS were going to go in for a night of the long knives type of operation .
 

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As far as I am aware it was also to settle an old score. The late Jerry McCabe was a member of the special branch in Munster. The said special branch were responsible for the ill treatment of republicans
SO as far as you are aware it was a planned murder?
BTW - how far away is source of your awareness?
 

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People will now come on and claim that this was because of witness intimidation, which I believe did occur in the case, and a man was sentenced to jail for refusing to co-operate with the Gardai. However, that man was not at the scene of the shooting, so I fail see what difference his evidence would have made to the case been prosecuted as murder or manslaughter

7. The people who killed Jerry Mc Cabe made an apology to the family, albeit 9 years later.

8. The detectives name was "Jerry" Mc Cabe, not "Gerry" Mc Cabe. Jeremiah rather than Gerard. It often surprises me, that those who get so indignant over the mans death, never seem to bother finding out his real name.
The inconvenient truth is a murder conviction was avoided because of witness intimidation.

As regards the name, are'nt you really clutching at straws, mental reservations maybe, justification. LOL.
 


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