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Give Irish citizens in the six counties the right to vote for Uachtarán na hÉireann?


Young Ned

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Calling for an all-island debate, involving unionists, on achieving Irish unity by peaceful means, he said: “A start could be made next year by granting to Irish citizens in the six counties the right to vote in the presidential election. The current Uachtarán na hÉireann is a native of Belfast but if she had still lived there at the time of her election she would not have been able to vote for herself.
An interesting suggestion, but ultimately meaningless, isn't it? It would be interesting if the Dáil made some some sort of constituency group for the North, similar to how the US allows territories (like Peurto Rico) to have delegates in Congress. They can't vote on floor votes, but can vote in committees.

As an Irish citizen living abroad, I'm completely against the idea of giving the vote to citizens living abroad - I think there are too many and the people whose everyday lives were to be affected would have their votes diluted, in effect.

Any thoughts?

'Militarist factions' in North denounced by McGuinness - The Irish Times - Mon, Jul 19, 2010
 

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An interesting suggestion, but ultimately meaningless, isn't it? It would be interesting if the Dáil made some some sort of constituency group for the North, similar to how the US allows territories (like Peurto Rico) to have delegates in Congress. They can't vote on floor votes, but can vote in committees.

As an Irish citizen living abroad, I'm completely against the idea of giving the vote to citizens living abroad - I think there are too many and the people whose everyday lives were to be affected would have their votes diluted, in effect.

Any thoughts?

'Militarist factions' in North denounced by McGuinness - The Irish Times - Mon, Jul 19, 2010
There you go then the "Irish" in Northern Ireland are living abroad = no vote. Why give them a vote and not the so called "Irish" in USA, Australia or wherever?
 

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There you go then the "Irish" in Northern Ireland are living abroad = no vote. Why give them a vote and not the so called "Irish" in USA, Australia or wherever?
Because by virtue of being born in Ireland they get Irish citizenship. As long as they continue to live in a place that confers citizenship, why should they not vote?
 

Cael

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The free state is finished anyway - who cares about its so called president.
 

Young Ned

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The free state is finished anyway - who cares about its so called president.
Well, I don't know about finished, Cael. People have been predicting its demise since '21, so I'll not hold my breath.

Presidential vote would be pretty cosmetic, which is why I brought up the idea of a delegation in the Dáil.
 

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An absurd idea...

So The Oirish will probably do it.
 

Young Ned

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I would deinitely be in favour of the introduction of a Northern constituency for the presidential elections. Would be great if just once the dáil did something positive for Irish citizens living in the north
Aontaim leat. What about some sort of constituency group? obviously, they'd not be able to vote, but they could have representatives sitting at the table when all-Ireland issues are discussed, at least, and possibly have the power to raise issues for consideration.
 

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If a person has an Irish passport then fair enough why not? Lets be honest I couldnt care less about the North to be honest but someone possess an Irish passport then they are Irish, its only fair they have a say
 

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An interesting suggestion, but ultimately meaningless, isn't it? It would be interesting if the Dáil made some some sort of constituency group for the North, similar to how the US allows territories (like Peurto Rico) to have delegates in Congress. They can't vote on floor votes, but can vote in committees.

As an Irish citizen living abroad, I'm completely against the idea of giving the vote to citizens living abroad - I think there are too many and the people whose everyday lives were to be affected would have their votes diluted, in effect.

Any thoughts?

'Militarist factions' in North denounced by McGuinness - The Irish Times - Mon, Jul 19, 2010
No votes for aggressive Nordies.

Give em an inch and they,ll take a mile.

Look at RTE FFS.

We should remove their automatic right to Irish citizenship immediately.
 

Tommythecommy

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Why would we give people who cannot elect our parliament

Why would we give people who cannot elect our parliament the right to select the person who has the right to veto our laws by referring them to the supreme court?

Why would we give people who do not pay taxes a role in electing our system of Government?

Would a majority of people in northern Ireland want such a system?

What would be the advantage in doing this for us?

Any northern born parson is free to take up residence in the Republic if they want to.
 

Éamonn an Chnoic

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I would deinitely be in favour of the introduction of a Northern constituency for the presidential elections. Would be great if just once the dáil did something positive for Irish citizens living in the north
 

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I would deinitely be in favour of the introduction of a Northern constituency for the presidential elections. Would be great if just once the dáil did something positive for Irish citizens living in the north
To be honest wouldnt waste the money on them, we have ourselves to worry about.......Let them pay for it themselves if they want it.
 

The Field Marshal

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Daft proposition

I would deinitely be in favour of the introduction of a Northern constituency for the presidential elections. Would be great if just once the dáil did something positive for Irish citizens living in the north
Thumbs down to that.

I propose removing any right whatever of anybody in NI to citizenship of the republic.

The population of Northern Ireland have not contributed to the well being of the 26 counties to any great extent and certainly not to the extent of giving any of them automatic Irish citizenship.
 

Young Ned

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Thumbs down to that.

I propose removing any right whatever of anybody in NI to citizenship of the republic.

The population of Northern Ireland have not contributed to the well being of the 26 counties to any great extent and certainly not to the extent of giving any of them automatic Irish citizenship.
Except that without that region, there probably wouldn't be a republic, and then they were abandoned post-treaty. That's not enough? Obviously, partition has made a mess of relations, but I find your antipathy startling.
 

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People in the north should of course be given the right to vote in Ireland's Presidential election. It's a bit mean spirited for anyone to be in favour of denying our fellow citizens north of the border that small right.
 

Young Ned

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People in the north should of course be given the right to vote in Ireland's Presidential election. It's a bit mean spirited for anyone to be in favour of denying our fellow citizens north of the border that small right.
I like the notion, too, because it provides a positive step that can be taken towards unity that is not subject to unionist veto, does not include violence, and would not be a terrible burden on the state.
 

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An interesting suggestion, but ultimately meaningless, isn't it? It would be interesting if the Dáil made some some sort of constituency group for the North, similar to how the US allows territories (like Peurto Rico) to have delegates in Congress. They can't vote on floor votes, but can vote in committees.

As an Irish citizen living abroad, I'm completely against the idea of giving the vote to citizens living abroad - I think there are too many and the people whose everyday lives were to be affected would have their votes diluted, in effect.

Any thoughts?

'Militarist factions' in North denounced by McGuinness - The Irish Times - Mon, Jul 19, 2010
Long overdue - should have been part of the GFA IMO.
 

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I would be happy to see anyone with an Irish passport given the right to apply for a postal vote in the Presidential election. I also believe all MPs from the north should have the right to attend Dail Eireann but not to vote.
 
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