Gogarty says "The People need to be frightened"

loaded32

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Was listening to the late debate on RTE last night. Firstly, government representative Paul Gogarty would not say if the austerity measures would be nearer to 7BN or 15BN...
...so when he went onto say that the numbers "are just a lot worse than anyone ever imagined"...he was accused by another panelist of frightening the people to which Gogarty then replied to the shock of all the panel and broadcaster : "The People need to be frightened! "

Now you have it!
 


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At least he didn't tell us to ************************ off
 

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Why are they a lot worse than anyone imagined Paul?

Would it be because the government has been lying about the state of the finances?

Might that be the case?
 
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Gogarty reminds me of Joyce's little aside when he orders a Topic in a pitch and putt skit on youtube:

'All fecund in its nuttiness...'
 

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He's dead right. The people elected the likes of him to run the country..
 

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Was listening to the late debate on RTE last night. Firstly, government representative Paul Gogarty would not say if the austerity measures would be nearer to 7BN or 15BN...
...so when he went onto say that the numbers "are just a lot worse than anyone ever imagined"...he was accused by another panelist of frightening the people to which Gogarty then replied to the shock of all the panel and broadcaster : "The People need to be frightened! "

Now you have it!
I think at this stage we should be just laughing at this troglodyte but does he have any realistic prospect of being re elected?
 

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I think at this stage we should be just laughing at this troglodyte but does he have any realistic prospect of being re elected?
We are frightened.We don`t need this loudmouth "wanna be Mayor " to tell us!
 

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Gogarty in last night's programme was an absolute disgrace and as such, illustrated all that is wrong with the current coalition government.

Firstly, his justification for the new Dublin Lord Mayor position and the definition of the role that he and his fellow quislings advocate were ludicrous, ill-conceived and condescendingly put forward. He also accused the Dublin City and County councils of being rife with corruption - hence the need for the new dude.

On the discussion about the financial state, his attitude was that 'they' have a mandate and not only need not inform the public of what the truth is, but doesn't see any reason why they should. He admitted that false information has been given by this government - in the interests of what he was vague about.

Like gormless, he is a power junkie with no concept of electoral responsibility or accountability. I certainly don't think we should just laugh at him. Regardless of his future chances of re-election, he and the rest of them are extremely dangerous right now in the positions they hold.
 

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Gogarty in last night's programme was an absolute disgrace and as such, illustrated all that is wrong with the current coalition government.

Firstly, his justification for the new Dublin Lord Mayor position and the definition of the role that he and his fellow quislings advocate were ludicrous, ill-conceived and condescendingly put forward. He also accused the Dublin City and County councils of being rife with corruption - hence the need for the new dude.

On the discussion about the financial state, his attitude was that 'they' have a mandate and not only need not inform the public of what the truth is, but doesn't see any reason why they should. He admitted that false information has been given by this government - in the interests of what he was vague about.

Like gormless, he is a power junkie with no concept of electoral responsibility or accountability. I certainly don't think we should just laugh at him. Regardless of his future chances of re-election, he and the rest of them are extremely dangerous right now in the positions they hold.
+1 ...your last statement is in fact the real frightening thing!
 

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Isn't frightening the electorate Government policy and since when did they ever tell us the truth anyway?
At least they have a reason for doing it (well several reasons not the least of which is to try to retain their jobs) but what reasons do the media have for going along with these lies?
 
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I have an idea for a simple 'consensus' tactic all opposition TD's would be capable of pulling off, as they have bags of experience. On budget day during Lenny's speech and any other government speech, they should remain completely silent to mark their protest. Behave like they would at a funeral. There will be little for FF TD's to cheer, so it would be fairly easy to create an unreal atmosphere for that day. Let ever cut be announced and met with nothing but stoney silence.
 

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At home we are looking at ways to cut our own spending in response to the budget. We plan a low-spend Christmas for a start.

With tax and cuts looming most families are having similar conversations I'm sure.

But as McWilliams points out it's the opposite of what the economy needs. So if the state takes 6 or 7 billion out of the economy and the people take another few billion out the consequences are going to be the failure of the strategy. It seems obvious but we're doing it anyway.

So what happens when it fails? Leave the euro, default and devalue?
 

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I have an idea for a simple 'consensus' tactic all opposition TD's would be capable of pulling off, as they have bags of experience. On budget day during Lenny's speech and any other government speech, they should remain completely silent to mark their protest. Behave like they would at a funeral. There will be little for FF TD's to cheer, so it would be fairly easy to create an unreal atmosphere for that day. Let ever cut be announced and met with nothing but stoney silence.
+1

That is a really good idea. Let the FF backbenchers squirm as each devastating cut and tax increase is announced - all brought to us by over a decade of FF incompetence and corruption. The Greens, because of the deluded fools they are, will probably be the only onces applauding each dreadful announcement.
 

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Was listening to the late debate on RTE last night. Firstly, government representative Paul Gogarty would not say if the austerity measures would be nearer to 7BN or 15BN...
...so when he went onto say that the numbers "are just a lot worse than anyone ever imagined"...he was accused by another panelist of frightening the people to which Gogarty then replied to the shock of all the panel and broadcaster : "The People need to be frightened! "

Now you have it!
That sums up the first half of the Programme for government.

The second would be

"and then systematically abused"
 

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I have an idea for a simple 'consensus' tactic all opposition TD's would be capable of pulling off, as they have bags of experience. On budget day during Lenny's speech and any other government speech, they should remain completely silent to mark their protest. Behave like they would at a funeral. There will be little for FF TD's to cheer, so it would be fairly easy to create an unreal atmosphere for that day. Let ever cut be announced and met with nothing but stoney silence.
It'd be more effective if they all walked out of this Dail now and refused to return on the basis that the government is being undemocratic by refusing to hold elections, although sitting in silence is probably more representative of the Irish people.
 

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The Greens, because of the deluded fools they are, will probably be the only onces applauding each dreadful announcement.
Of course this is what the Greens wanted all along. Consumption will fall, people will stay at home afraid to turn on the heating. Emissions will fall and the planet will be saved. As a movement they have been consistent in their opposition to growth. Now they get to experiment on us.
 

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I have an idea for a simple 'consensus' tactic all opposition TD's would be capable of pulling off, as they have bags of experience. On budget day during Lenny's speech and any other government speech, they should remain completely silent to mark their protest. Behave like they would at a funeral. There will be little for FF TD's to cheer, so it would be fairly easy to create an unreal atmosphere for that day. Let ever cut be announced and met with nothing but stoney silence.
Conjures up great images all right. I think someone would have to borrow a pair of socks to stuff into Michael Ring's mouth though. Likewise Joan Burton. They just can't help themselves.

But if it could be agreed by all in opposition it would be a first and would do infinitely more good than the predictable barracking across the floor we've grown so tired of.

Silence of the lambs 2.
 


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