'Golden Compass' (film) promotes the 'atheist agenda'

Akrasia

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Catholic groups in America have called for a boycott of the The Golden Compass, the movie adaptations Philip Pulmans fantasy trilogy, Dark Materials , claiming that it is "Bait to ensnare children in his "atheist agenda" This is despite the fact that nobody from "the Catholic League of the United States" (ooh superheroes!!) has seen the film.

ill Donohoe, the president of the Catholic League in the United States, has said that the British author's His Dark Materials books are deeply anti-Christian and promote "atheism for kids''.

He said he feared the film would prompt parents to buy the books, unaware that the third in the series, 'The Amber Spyglass', climaxes in an epic battle to "destroy God''.

The conservative league's call for a boycott of 'The Golden Compass', starring Nicole Kidman and Daniel Craig and which had its premiere in London last night, has been taken up by a growing number of Catholic leaders.

The Catholic school board in Ontario has ordered 'Northern Lights', the book on which the film is based, removed from library shelves.
http://www.independent.ie/entertainment ... 31912.html
Banning fantasy books that you haven't read because you've heard they don't agree with your religious beliefs?
Have you ever heard anything so sad and pathetic in all your life?

If God is so powerful, why does he need to be protected so much? If God wants to have a personal relationship with all of us, why do kids need to be indoctrinated so carefully that they can't be exposed to any dissenting ideas (even in the form of fantasy stories) lest it might cast any doubt in their fragile little minds.

This most recent outbreak of authoritarianism comes hot on the heels of his popeness' and his chief exorcist's condemnation of the Harry Potter books ((should probably stick to his Pilates and step aerobics and leave the book reviews to other people)
 


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They sound like that wonderfully hilarious woman on The Last Word last night giving out about "pornography". Turns out she's a former CSP election candidate.

If they don't like the film, then don't watch it.

Personally, I can't wait. I loved the Dark Materials trilogy
 
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Bill Donohue is an extremist whose organisation is rejected by most
American Catholics.

Besides, it's a big-budget blockbuster, and much of the North American/Europe market
is Christian. You can insult Christians (and other religions) in small art-house films, but for such
a huge movie to do that would be commerical suicide.

Anyway, my young cousins go to a Catholic primary school, and Pullman's books are freely available in the library.
 

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I adore His Dark Materials, and they certainly are atheistic. They're often described as an atheist's version of the Chronicles of Narnia!!

Wonderful books, which every child should be encouraged to read. And the same goes for Chronicles of Narnia, despite their very Christian overtones. Children should not have their reading limited based on the values of their parents, but should be encouraged to read voraciously, including books from all different value-sets, so that they can develop and mature as individuals.
 

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Munion said:
They sound like that wonderfully hilarious woman on The Last Word last night giving out about "pornography". Turns out she's a former CSP election candidate.

If they don't like the film, then don't watch it.

Personally, I can't wait. I loved the Dark Materials trilogy
oh i heard her going on about waitress and bargirls in bikinis. jesus if that offends her i hope she never ends up in a club. its all basques and hooker boots in there :D

TBH im always at a loss as to why such a fuss is made about this sort of thing and theres a slight "nazi book burner" feel to the whole thing to boot. ITS ENTERTAINMENT. get over it.

harry potter isnt trying to indoctrinate your kids into the dark arts and dogma was a comedy so what the hell are you doing taking it seriously in the first place!

personally ive been raised on comics, fantasy books and fantasy films so im well looking forward to this one. the only real problem i have is the industrys inablity to come up with original concepts themselves. its fun seeing much loved books and comics become films but surely the industry can only do that for so long.

still be fun to see what happens when they get to the whole primus thing in transformers. religious nutters will probably be banging on about pushing a false god on that too :D
 
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It's got Nicole Kidman and Eva Green in it. Mmmmmm....

Now if you want blasphemy, see how "Doctor Who" has been rapidly
going downhill under its current production team.... :x
 

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stretchneil said:
I adore His Dark Materials, and they certainly are atheistic. They're often described as an atheist's version of the Chronicles of Narnia!!

Wonderful books, which every child should be encouraged to read. And the same goes for Chronicles of Narnia, despite their very Christian overtones. Children should not have their reading limited based on the values of their parents, but should be encouraged to read voraciously, including books from all different value-sets, so that they can develop and mature as individuals.


I agree with stretchneil :shock:
 

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Akrasia said:
the review of the film isnt particularly glowing unfortunately
http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/ ... 956068.ece

YAY ! :D

no offense but i get very worried when film critics actually like films im interested in seeing. particularly genre films as generally they havent the foggiest what their about and tend to critic them purely on whether they'll look like a tool for slagging it or not.

personally i dont listen to the opinon of someone who didnt cough up money to see a film like i will so im actually quite happy with this.

(besides what prick gives his kid such an awfull name? says alot about his taste :) )
 

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Re: 'Goldan Compass' (film) promotes the 'atheist agenda'

Akrasia said:
Banning fantasy books that you haven't read because you've heard they don't agree with your religious beliefs?
America versus communism in the 60's
 
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These are probably the same fools who thought that the Chronicles of Narnia was going to lead to a new era of Christian enlightenment across the globe, and save all our children from catching the gay.

(Very same as John O'Donoghue, who said that The Wind That Shakes the Barley - a truly awful film - would "rock our political system to its very foundations" :roll: )

I've only read Northern Lights (the book on which this film was based), and I only read it having seen reviews of the stage version in London starring Timothy Dalton. I was a bit disappointed by it, but its atheist undertones are unmistakeable (Newsnight Review billed the play as being the story of Lyra, a girl who is horrified to discover that her Father has constructed a machine which will allow him to travel to Heaven, and kill God. Overblowing it a bit, but its probably a fair interpretation of the story)
 

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I think there should be more pro - atheist films out there. Actually, scrap that. We need to teach children to worship the dark lord, in the form of a Celtic Horned God of old!

Three children in my neighbourhood have already summoned Beelzebub, lord of the flies successfully and are whizzing around on broomsticks Harry Potter style, the lucky little sh*ts.

Now wheres me silver ceremonial dagger?

:roll:
 

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Compound Fracture said:
and save all our children from catching the gay.
Quote of the day!

Brilliant!
 

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stretchneil said:
I adore His Dark Materials, and they certainly are atheistic. They're often described as an atheist's version of the Chronicles of Narnia!!
I'm just finishing off "The Amber Spygalss" at the moment. I found that the series got better as you went along, and I'm really, really enjoying the last book. I have some small gripes: some minor details of the story are quite clunky, and from time to time the dialogue is truly cringeworthy, but all in all a very good read.

Children should not have their reading limited based on the values of their parents, but should be encouraged to read voraciously, including books from all different value-sets, so that they can develop and mature as individuals
I wholeheartedly agree.
 

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First of all, how great is it that BBC news reports now come with a spoiler warning at the top? Secondly:

Ironically, Mr Pullman has also come under fire from secularists - who say there's isn't enough anti-religious sentiment in the film.

Terry Sanderson, president of the National Secular Society, said: "We knew from the beginning that the producers of this film intended to leave out the anti-religious references.

"We think this is a great shame. The fight against the Magisterium (Pullman's thinly-disguised version of the Catholic Church) is the whole point of the book. Take that away and the most original and interesting element of the story is lost."
(Thirdly, who's proofreading for the BBC today?)
 

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I had heard that the anti-God stuff was being watered down for the movie, but I really can't see how they'll pull off a film version of the third book, without having fairly explicit anti-religious motifs survive.
 

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stretchneil said:
I had heard that the anti-God stuff was being watered down for the movie, but I really can't see how they'll pull off a film version of the third book, without having fairly explicit anti-religious motifs survive.
I'm a big fan of Fantasy books. The best thing about them is that they are actually fantasy (thats made up for the stupid amongst you) and are sold as such.

I'm glad people like Bill Donohue exist, he makes me feel all superior.
 
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I can't see the problem with anti-religious (not to be confused with atheist) film foe kids, look at all the religious ones out there. Chronicles of Narnia, Lord of the Rings etc.
 


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