Good Friday Agreement Dead; Government pretends nt to notice

Prof Honeydew

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James Brokenshire's umpteenth deadline for completing talks on restoring the Northern Ireland Executive passed once again today. Despite the rubbish peddled by Tommie Gorman and the rest of the Dublin and London media, this has been consistently flagged by the representatives of one of the North's communities ever since the Executive collapsed in January and any faint prospects for a more positive outcome disappeared when the British General Election threw up a Tory Government relying on DUP support.

Much like his Cabinet colleagues "negotiating" with the EU on completely unattainable Brexit objectives, Brokenpaw is not engaged in any realistic attempt at producing an agreement but is instead creating an illusion of activity in the hope of deflecting blame for the inevitable fallout. The Good Friday Agreement was killed off by the British Government's abdication of its role as an impartial guarantor of the treaty, a process begun with the May administration bolstering its pro-Brexit DUP allies by supporting their calls for an end to legacy inquiries into the activities of the Crown Forces during the Troubles and the refusal to implement previous agreements on the Irish language and on other issues. Just to make sure everyone knew where the Brits now stand, his calculated announcement today on the funding of the North's political parties was a signal to the DUP that the clock has been turned back to the pre-1969 days when the Stormont regime could do whatever it liked.

Unlike the Brexit discussions where the EU have told the Brits to face up to the responsibilities or else face the consequences, the other guarantor of the Good Friday Agreement, the Irish Government, has folded like a house of cards by not deviating by as much as a comma from the British position of blaming the North's parties and particularly Sinn Fein for the collapse of the Executive. This passive attitude has become more pronounced since the accession of Leo Varadkar as Taoiseach whose only stated interest so far in what goes on north of the Border is in gay marriage. Unfortunately, it would suggest that, in common with the Tories and their sordid Brexit strategy, the current Fine Gael attitude to what happens in the North is determined by purely local party political considerations rather than at keeping the Peace Process on the road.

The irony is that any Irish government has absolutely nothing to gain by kissing British àrse at the moment. Not only are the Brits quite content to screw up our economy and annihilate the North's with their clueless incompetence over Brexit but they've collapsed the Good Friday Agreement in order to further their Little Englander fantasies. Any illusions about Anglo/Irish relations were well and truly shattered over the weekend by their unilateral decision to ban Irish trawlers from fishing in their territorial waters.

If Britain wants to fùck itself up over its Colonel Blimp wet dreams, okay that's their business. But if they're fùcking us up even more in the process, then Ireland needs a government with the balls to stand up to them instead of cravenly rolling over like the Freestaters when they bombarded the Four Courts in 1922 or the Cosgrave regime which turned a blind eye to Britain's security services bombing Dublin and Monaghan in 1974.
 


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Stormont is an over paid, over staffed British council./ DUP rule even if Sinn Fein snouts are wallowing at the trough
 

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Come on SF could go back in with the DUP tomorrow

- if that's what they wanted

They are playing a Deep Game here be in no doubt about it

Or should I say Mr Adams is

Is he looking for what will in effect be 'Joint Authority' in all but name?

May we live in interesting times an all that....:cool:
 

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Ireland needs a government with the balls to stand up to them instead of cravenly rolling over like the Freestaters when they bombarded the Four Courts in 1922 or the Cosgrave regime which turned a blind eye to Britain's security services bombing Dublin and Monaghan in 1974.
You are utterly hysterical at this point.
 

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James Brokenshire's umpteenth deadline for completing talks on restoring the Northern Ireland Executive passed once again today. Despite the rubbish peddled by Tommie Gorman and the rest of the Dublin and London media, this has been consistently flagged by the representatives of one of the North's communities ever since the Executive collapsed in January and any faint prospects for a more positive outcome disappeared when the British General Election threw up a Tory Government relying on DUP support.

Much like his Cabinet colleagues "negotiating" with the EU on completely unattainable Brexit objectives, Brokenpaw is not engaged in any realistic attempt at producing an agreement but is instead creating an illusion of activity in the hope of deflecting blame for the inevitable fallout. The Good Friday Agreement was killed off by the British Government's abdication of its role as an impartial guarantor of the treaty, a process begun with the May administration bolstering its pro-Brexit DUP allies by supporting their calls for an end to legacy inquiries into the activities of the Crown Forces during the Troubles and the refusal to implement previous agreements on the Irish language and on other issues. Just to make sure everyone knew where the Brits now stand, his calculated announcement today on the funding of the North's political parties was a signal to the DUP that the clock has been turned back to the pre-1969 days when the Stormont regime could do whatever it liked.

Unlike the Brexit discussions where the EU have told the Brits to face up to the responsibilities or else face the consequences, the other guarantor of the Good Friday Agreement, the Irish Government, has folded like a house of cards by not deviating by as much as a comma from the British position of blaming the North's parties and particularly Sinn Fein for the collapse of the Executive. This passive attitude has become more pronounced since the accession of Leo Varadkar as Taoiseach whose only stated interest so far in what goes on north of the Border is in gay marriage. Unfortunately, it would suggest that, in common with the Tories and their sordid Brexit strategy, the current Fine Gael attitude to what happens in the North is determined by purely local party political considerations rather than at keeping the Peace Process on the road.

The irony is that any Irish government has absolutely nothing to gain by kissing British àrse at the moment. Not only are the Brits quite content to screw up our economy and annihilate the North's with their clueless incompetence over Brexit but they've collapsed the Good Friday Agreement in order to further their Little Englander fantasies. Any illusions about Anglo/Irish relations were well and truly shattered over the weekend by their unilateral decision to ban Irish trawlers from fishing in their territorial waters.

If Britain wants to fùck itself up over its Colonel Blimp wet dreams, okay that's their business. But if they're fùcking us up even more in the process, then Ireland needs a government with the balls to stand up to them instead of cravenly rolling over like the Freestaters when they bombarded the Four Courts in 1922 or the Cosgrave regime which turned a blind eye to Britain's security services bombing Dublin and Monaghan in 1974.
Some good points but your obviously pro EU position with the associated "clueless incompetence" tag for the Brits is static. The EU will most likely face a major crisis over the next 2-3 years one which may infact lead to a partial break up of the club. The Brits position will as a consequence become stronger and the Brexit issue will become less important. The changing demographics in the North will be the crucial factor over the years ahead The GFA has played an important part in stabilising the system but in many respects has outlived its usefullness. A period of direct rule followed by a new agreement with a date for a border poll in 4/5 years seems likely to emerge.
 

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All very convenient that "cash for ash", something that all the parties knew about, became an issue after the brexit vote.
 

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James Brokenshire's umpteenth deadline for completing talks on restoring the Northern Ireland Executive passed once again today. Despite the rubbish peddled by Tommie Gorman and the rest of the Dublin and London media, this has been consistently flagged by the representatives of one of the North's communities ever since the Executive collapsed in January and any faint prospects for a more positive outcome disappeared when the British General Election threw up a Tory Government relying on DUP support.

Much like his Cabinet colleagues "negotiating" with the EU on completely unattainable Brexit objectives, Brokenpaw is not engaged in any realistic attempt at producing an agreement but is instead creating an illusion of activity in the hope of deflecting blame for the inevitable fallout. The Good Friday Agreement was killed off by the British Government's abdication of its role as an impartial guarantor of the treaty, a process begun with the May administration bolstering its pro-Brexit DUP allies by supporting their calls for an end to legacy inquiries into the activities of the Crown Forces during the Troubles and the refusal to implement previous agreements on the Irish language and on other issues. Just to make sure everyone knew where the Brits now stand, his calculated announcement today on the funding of the North's political parties was a signal to the DUP that the clock has been turned back to the pre-1969 days when the Stormont regime could do whatever it liked.

Unlike the Brexit discussions where the EU have told the Brits to face up to the responsibilities or else face the consequences, the other guarantor of the Good Friday Agreement, the Irish Government, has folded like a house of cards by not deviating by as much as a comma from the British position of blaming the North's parties and particularly Sinn Fein for the collapse of the Executive. This passive attitude has become more pronounced since the accession of Leo Varadkar as Taoiseach whose only stated interest so far in what goes on north of the Border is in gay marriage. Unfortunately, it would suggest that, in common with the Tories and their sordid Brexit strategy, the current Fine Gael attitude to what happens in the North is determined by purely local party political considerations rather than at keeping the Peace Process on the road.

The irony is that any Irish government has absolutely nothing to gain by kissing British àrse at the moment. Not only are the Brits quite content to screw up our economy and annihilate the North's with their clueless incompetence over Brexit but they've collapsed the Good Friday Agreement in order to further their Little Englander fantasies. Any illusions about Anglo/Irish relations were well and truly shattered over the weekend by their unilateral decision to ban Irish trawlers from fishing in their territorial waters.

If Britain wants to fùck itself up over its Colonel Blimp wet dreams, okay that's their business. But if they're fùcking us up even more in the process, then Ireland needs a government with the balls to stand up to them instead of cravenly rolling over like the Freestaters when they bombarded the Four Courts in 1922 or the Cosgrave regime which turned a blind eye to Britain's security services bombing Dublin and Monaghan in 1974.
The GFA is a process, not a product, and what's happening now is part of the process. The DUP, for the moment, have the whip hand and direct rule from London, were they are, de facto, in government, would suit them very nicely. SF couldn't have foreseen that the law of unintended consequences was going to jump up and bite them when they brought the assembly down, but that's why the word 'unintended' is in there.
 

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James Brokenshire's umpteenth deadline for completing talks on restoring the Northern Ireland Executive passed once again today. Despite the rubbish peddled by Tommie Gorman and the rest of the Dublin and London media, this has been consistently flagged by the representatives of one of the North's communities ever since the Executive collapsed in January and any faint prospects for a more positive outcome disappeared when the British General Election threw up a Tory Government relying on DUP support.

Much like his Cabinet colleagues "negotiating" with the EU on completely unattainable Brexit objectives, Brokenpaw is not engaged in any realistic attempt at producing an agreement but is instead creating an illusion of activity in the hope of deflecting blame for the inevitable fallout. The Good Friday Agreement was killed off by the British Government's abdication of its role as an impartial guarantor of the treaty, a process begun with the May administration bolstering its pro-Brexit DUP allies by supporting their calls for an end to legacy inquiries into the activities of the Crown Forces during the Troubles and the refusal to implement previous agreements on the Irish language and on other issues. Just to make sure everyone knew where the Brits now stand, his calculated announcement today on the funding of the North's political parties was a signal to the DUP that the clock has been turned back to the pre-1969 days when the Stormont regime could do whatever it liked.

Unlike the Brexit discussions where the EU have told the Brits to face up to the responsibilities or else face the consequences, the other guarantor of the Good Friday Agreement, the Irish Government, has folded like a house of cards by not deviating by as much as a comma from the British position of blaming the North's parties and particularly Sinn Fein for the collapse of the Executive. This passive attitude has become more pronounced since the accession of Leo Varadkar as Taoiseach whose only stated interest so far in what goes on north of the Border is in gay marriage. Unfortunately, it would suggest that, in common with the Tories and their sordid Brexit strategy, the current Fine Gael attitude to what happens in the North is determined by purely local party political considerations rather than at keeping the Peace Process on the road.

The irony is that any Irish government has absolutely nothing to gain by kissing British àrse at the moment. Not only are the Brits quite content to screw up our economy and annihilate the North's with their clueless incompetence over Brexit but they've collapsed the Good Friday Agreement in order to further their Little Englander fantasies. Any illusions about Anglo/Irish relations were well and truly shattered over the weekend by their unilateral decision to ban Irish trawlers from fishing in their territorial waters.

If Britain wants to fùck itself up over its Colonel Blimp wet dreams, okay that's their business. But if they're fùcking us up even more in the process, then Ireland needs a government with the balls to stand up to them instead of cravenly rolling over like the Freestaters when they bombarded the Four Courts in 1922 or the Cosgrave regime which turned a blind eye to Britain's security services bombing Dublin and Monaghan in 1974.
I'd suggest Simon Coveney is more "on message" than you think. Just reading between the lines here, mind.
 

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I'd suggest Simon Coveney is more "on message" than you think. Just reading between the lines here, mind.
That 'reading between the lines' thing is a suspect, non-Irish activity.
 

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It doesnt matter if GF agreement is dead. It has achieved its primary goal.

IRA DEFEATED and DISARMED.

Nothing nationalists can do now except jump around and moan.
 

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It doesnt matter if GF agreement is dead. It has achieved its primary goal.

IRA DEFEATED and DISARMED.

Nothing nationalists can do now except jump around and moan.
This is why we can't have nice things.
 

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The GFA died when McGuinness walked out of government, and any faint hopes that it would be resuscitated died too when May hopped into bed with the DUP and the semi useless Enda Kenny was replaced with the completely useless Leo Varadkar.
 

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James Brokenshire's umpteenth deadline for completing talks on restoring the Northern Ireland Executive passed once again today. Despite the rubbish peddled by Tommie Gorman and the rest of the Dublin and London media, this has been consistently flagged by the representatives of one of the North's communities ever since the Executive collapsed in January and any faint prospects for a more positive outcome disappeared when the British General Election threw up a Tory Government relying on DUP support.

Much like his Cabinet colleagues "negotiating" with the EU on completely unattainable Brexit objectives, Brokenpaw is not engaged in any realistic attempt at producing an agreement but is instead creating an illusion of activity in the hope of deflecting blame for the inevitable fallout. The Good Friday Agreement was killed off by the British Government's abdication of its role as an impartial guarantor of the treaty, a process begun with the May administration bolstering its pro-Brexit DUP allies by supporting their calls for an end to legacy inquiries into the activities of the Crown Forces during the Troubles and the refusal to implement previous agreements on the Irish language and on other issues. Just to make sure everyone knew where the Brits now stand, his calculated announcement today on the funding of the North's political parties was a signal to the DUP that the clock has been turned back to the pre-1969 days when the Stormont regime could do whatever it liked.

Unlike the Brexit discussions where the EU have told the Brits to face up to the responsibilities or else face the consequences, the other guarantor of the Good Friday Agreement, the Irish Government, has folded like a house of cards by not deviating by as much as a comma from the British position of blaming the North's parties and particularly Sinn Fein for the collapse of the Executive. This passive attitude has become more pronounced since the accession of Leo Varadkar as Taoiseach whose only stated interest so far in what goes on north of the Border is in gay marriage. Unfortunately, it would suggest that, in common with the Tories and their sordid Brexit strategy, the current Fine Gael attitude to what happens in the North is determined by purely local party political considerations rather than at keeping the Peace Process on the road.

The irony is that any Irish government has absolutely nothing to gain by kissing British àrse at the moment. Not only are the Brits quite content to screw up our economy and annihilate the North's with their clueless incompetence over Brexit but they've collapsed the Good Friday Agreement in order to further their Little Englander fantasies. Any illusions about Anglo/Irish relations were well and truly shattered over the weekend by their unilateral decision to ban Irish trawlers from fishing in their territorial waters.

If Britain wants to fùck itself up over its Colonel Blimp wet dreams, okay that's their business. But if they're fùcking us up even more in the process, then Ireland needs a government with the balls to stand up to them instead of cravenly rolling over like the Freestaters when they bombarded the Four Courts in 1922 or the Cosgrave regime which turned a blind eye to Britain's security services bombing Dublin and Monaghan in 1974.
Unionists would like to bury the GFA - and they would wish to see nothing ever like it to be raised again.

Unfortunately for Unionists, history demonstrates that every time Unionists try to stymie Nationalist progress in the North, they simply eventually end up back at the table negotiating a new set-up / Agreement - resulting in an even weaker Unionist position.

A Nationalist electoral majority coming down the line by the mid-2020's in the North will be a game-changer - time is not on Unionists side.
 

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With any luck this will put back a United Ireland another 50 years.
Already by 2050, the Unionist community in the 6 counties will be under 35% if the current demographic trend continues on the same trajectory.

Numbers can be a terrible party-pooper.
 

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/// the Irish Government, has folded like a house of cards by not deviating by as much as a comma from the British position of blaming the North's parties and particularly Sinn Fein for the collapse of the Executive. This passive attitude has become more pronounced since the accession of Leo Varadkar as Taoiseach whose only stated interest so far in what goes on north of the Border is in gay marriage. Unfortunately, it would suggest that, in common with the Tories and their sordid Brexit strategy, the current Fine Gael attitude to what happens in the North is determined by purely local party political considerations rather than at keeping the Peace Process on the road.//.

Hum ho, who is going to take the peace process off the road? When, how, and at what cost?

Oh I get it.

It's all a plot by mi5 so they can allow a new "liberation movement" to arise, so that they can infiltrate it, like they did the PIRA.
 

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Well done Jarry and Michelle!
 

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It doesnt matter if GF agreement is dead. It has achieved its primary goal.

IRA DEFEATED and DISARMED.

Nothing nationalists can do now except jump around and moan.
Or rearm and next time attack the Prods. Time to forget about 1798 and 1916 and reclaim the spirit of 1641.
 


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