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Good news: 100 high quality IT jobs for central Belfast as US software firm invests


Portadown madman

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Arty will not like that, I'm afraid. The more job losses in NI the better for him, that's his idea how a UI will come about.

we all lose our jobs and look to the Republic for salvation.
 

factual

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Arty will not like that, I'm afraid. The more job losses in NI the better for him, that's his idea how a UI will come about.

we all lose our jobs and look to the Republic for salvation.
Would seem an odd route - we in Dublin would not be able to subsidise a heavy subvention. On the contrary the only way people are likely to choose a UI is if there is a strong economy north of the border.
 

Portadown madman

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Would seem an odd route - we in Dublin would not be able to subsidise a heavy subvention. On the contrary the only way people are likely to choose a UI is if there is a strong economy north of the border.
You only have to look at the thread he started the other day. in fact, don't bother.

Anyway, Good to see jobs being created, no matter if it's 10 or 100, it's someone getting a salary
 

factual

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You only have to look at the thread he started the other day. in fact, don't bother.

Anyway, Good to see jobs being created, no matter if it's 10 or 100, it's someone getting a salary
Its in an area - software - that Belfast is quite strong now in. It's also good to see the Waterfront area getting some jobs into those office blocks that have been built.

Apparently NI has been getting a lot of inward investment. The private sector has a long way to go but it is at least moving in the right direction.
 

ArtyisBack

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This is precisely the type of sector that is needed to be developed. It is relatively high paid and therefore high tax generating. Belfast has small nucleus of software firms who are being subsidised heavily by Invest NI. Exactly what is needed to prime the pump for local job generation.

Unfortunately there has not been enough of this development to offset the continuing decline of the more traditional industries.
 

between the bridges

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This is precisely the type of sector that is needed to be developed. It is relatively high paid and therefore high tax generating. Belfast has small nucleus of software firms who are being subsidised heavily by Invest NI. Exactly what is needed to prime the pump for local job generation.

Unfortunately there has not been enough of this development to offset the continuing decline of the more traditional industries.
steady arty that was almost positive!!
 

runwiththewind

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Again it's a US company. What I'd like to see is more investment in indigenous companies on an All-Ireland basis. The IDA and Invest NI are both doing the same thing, ie, coaxing foreign companies into Ireland. Who's investing in locals who have the idea but not the funding? Enterpise Ireland is supposed to be doing this but has anyone any idea how many indigenous companies they have helped in the last 4 years? There are only interested in the export market for local companies and do not support those whose market is primarily local and national.

I love to know the actual cost to the taxpayer for coaxing these companies into Ireland. 100,000 employed directly in the Rep in foreign companies, low corporation tax and even at that low rate, few are actually paying the that rate. Almost all of the profits sent out of the country. Are we getting a fair return?

Am I the lone voice of concern?

To pull all of Ireland out of this recession and to withstand future recessions better we need a strong and constantly evolving indigenous Irish companies committed to Ireland.

NI just seems to be going down the same road as the Rep and becoming dependent on foreign companies for its source of employment.
 

factual

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Again it's a US company. What I'd like to see is more investment in indigenous companies on an All-Ireland basis. The IDA and Invest NI are both doing the same thing, ie, coaxing foreign companies into Ireland. Who's investing in locals who have the idea but not the funding? Enterpise Ireland is supposed to be doing this but has anyone any idea how many indigenous companies they have helped in the last 4 years? There are only interested in the export market for local companies and do not support those whose market is primarily local and national.

I love to know the actual cost to the taxpayer for coaxing these companies into Ireland. 100,000 employed directly in the Rep in foreign companies, low corporation tax and even at that low rate, few are actually paying the that rate. Almost all of the profits sent out of the country. Are we getting a fair return?

Am I the lone voice of concern?

To pull all of Ireland out of this recession and to withstand future recessions better we need a strong and constantly evolving indigenous Irish companies committed to Ireland.

NI just seems to be going down the same road as the Rep and becoming dependent on foreign companies for its source of employment.
There is a significant indigenous manufacturing sector up there - Shorts Aerospace, H&W wind turbines, Wrightbus bus manufacturing, etc. They have a tradition in engineering and are quite proud of it.
 
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Castle Ray

This is precisely the type of sector that is needed to be developed. It is relatively high paid and therefore high tax generating. Belfast has small nucleus of software firms who are being subsidised heavily by Invest NI. Exactly what is needed to prime the pump for local job generation.

Unfortunately there has not been enough of this development to offset the continuing decline of the more traditional industries.
Agree. One of the big issues is we aren't developing enough graduate software engineers. We also have ditched the ICT conversion programme for non-ICT graduates. There isn't a joint-up approach and we keep churning out law, teacher, consumer studies etc graduates beyond any requirement for them whilst there is a gaping hole in the skillset required to take NI forward.
 

eskrimador

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Great news but this is not where the focus needs to be. What of the former workers of HG Wilson's and Patton's, good working class men who are happy to work, dedicated and loyal.
 
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Castle Ray

Great news but this is not where the focus needs to be. What of the former workers of HG Wilson's and Patton's, good working class men who are happy to work, dedicated and loyal.
According to DEL most of those who left FG Wilson are employed elsewhere in the job market.
 

ArtyisBack

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Great news but this is not where the focus needs to be. What of the former workers of HG Wilson's and Patton's, good working class men who are happy to work, dedicated and loyal.
It is plain to see that without an education your back is to the wall
 
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