Government's Climate Action Plan

galteeman

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They haven't seriously promoted cycling in Dublin. Cycling lanes interacting with car traffic are shite, too dangerous.
Dedicated cycling paths could be constructed eveywhere in Dublin if a bit of ingenuity was applied.
Also serious new afforestation incentives could be introduced to increase our levels which are very low compared to the rest of the EU.
I reckon new forest incentives will come soon so poor to mid quality land would be a very good investment right now.
 


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There is no plan....just robbery..
 

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Listened to the usual nonsense on RTE last night about switching to electric cars. Listening to them, you would think every motorist was going to rush out and spend €30k on a new electric car in the morning if enough charging points were available. The actual target is 2030 by which time the relative cost of electric cars and the range will most likely be acceptable. Its more than likely that by that date, most cars available for sale will be electric. 10 years is a reasonable lead in time for a new technology to develop to the stage of practicality.
 

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Listened to the usual nonsense on RTE last night about switching to electric cars. Listening to them, you would think every motorist was going to rush out and spend €30k on a new electric car in the morning if enough charging points were available. The actual target is 2030 by which time the relative cost of electric cars and the range will most likely be acceptable. Its more than likely that by that date, most cars available for sale will be electric. 10 years is a reasonable lead in time for a new technology to develop to the stage of practicality.
I turned stations as I am getting fed-up with listening to the propaganda from Leo's spin team.

I note that the population is being buttered up with talk of €80/tonne carbon tax. Won't we be the lucky ones when the next budget only imposes a €5 or €10 increase on the current rate of €20!
 

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Thousands protest in central Madrid against the removal of the ban on some diesel and petrol cars from the city centre, how times can change! I expect similar bans will be imposed in Dublin in the coming years and then spread to Cork and other major cities as did the smoky coal ban.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-48814970

Thousands of protesters flooded the streets of Madrid on Saturday to oppose the newly elected conservative mayor's decision to reverse car pollution restrictions.
The People's Party-run city hall has provoked an outcry by suspending a ban on most petrol and diesel cars in Madrid's centre.
The policy aimed to ensure the city complied with the EU's clean air rules.
 

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Love the photos, esp the guy ticking things off on his fingers.

Public sector emits 40% of CO2, target is to reduce by a third by 2020.

The public sector has a target of 33% energy efficiency savings of by 2020. This represents 10% of the energy saving required by 2020 for the entire economy.


This aspiration assumes that the PS emits 33%, not 40%, so it has "saved" 7% right there by telling a nice big round fib.

We're paying for all this, win or lose.
 

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They might have to rewrite the "plan" yet...

[B]Climate Realists[/B]‏ @[B]ClimateRealists[/B] 2h2 hours ago
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Australia’s Most Eminent Historian Challenges Climate Change Orthodoxy. Professor Geoffrey Blainey, has challenged the idea that the current level of climate change is either unique or largely the result of human behaviour.

AUSTRALIA’S MOST EMINENT HISTORIAN CHALLENGES CLIMATE CHANGE ORTHODOXY
  • Date: 05/07/19

  • The Sydney Morning Herald
Australia’s best-known historian, Professor Geoffrey Blainey, has challenged the idea that the current level of climate change is either unique or largely the result of human behaviour.
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Australia’s best known historian Geoffrey Blainey says human behaviour “may” play a part in global warming.CREDIT:pAUL JEFFERS
 

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Australia’s Most Eminent Historian Challenges Climate Change Orthodoxy. Professor Geoffrey Blainey, has challenged the idea that the current level of climate change is either unique or largely the result of human behaviour.
Historians know as much about climate (change or otherwise) as economists. They should stick to their knitting.
 

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Diagraceful that the govt is using the "money message" (Article 17.2 of Constitition) to block a Climate Change bill despite the govt having lost a previous vote opposing it in the Oireachtas. Time for referendum to restrict the use of the money message, which the govt has used to an unprecedented degree to subvert the will of the Dail. The bill would have banned offshore oil and gas exploration. Leo is not the Queen.
 

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The bill would have banned offshore oil and gas exploration. Leo is not the Queen.
Typical gesture politics from usual posers. In 50+ years of exploration, there has not been a commercial oil find but every company with a license or even an application for one would claim compensation. Shows the stupidity of those voting for this nonsense.
 

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Historians know as much about climate (change or otherwise) as economists. They should stick to their knitting.
And you can say the same about many of the 97% scientists.
 

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although it may be that the interconnector to France will allow that to happen
How will that allow 70% to be incorporated? Why would France want our excess renewable electricity when their renewables are generating at the same time (the anti correlation between wind and solar in Ireland/France is low).

Further, as I have documented in other threads, if Ireland would go solar, it needs to be seriously different to the route attempted in the UK and Germany. Few, if any emissions have been avoided through the use of solar there.

So, assuming emission reductions is the only concern, that leaves wind and nuclear. I am not aware of many hydro sites in Ireland and geothermal and wave/tidal remain unproven and un-competitive.
 

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The "Plan" doesn't allow for 4.5m people emitting 0.3 tonnes each a year of CO2 in their breath.

That is 1.5m tonnes pa, calling for us all to wear head masks with filters, so that the CO2 is safely removed from the climate.
 

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No you can't. Scientists are better able to evaluate the evidence than non scientists.
That's debatable if it's not their field.
 

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That's debatable if it's not their field.
They all speak the same language (maths). They all understand how science operates on the ground. It's not debateable at all if you are comparing them with a historian or a plumber.
 

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That's debatable if it's not their field.
Scientists are better able to understand the scientific basis of the work of other scientists. Historians study the past, they analyse documents from the past to try and put events in the context of their time, occasionally they discover something that changes our view of the past but its hard to see how a historian can analyse something which hasn't happened yet.
 

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They all speak the same language (maths). They all understand how science operates on the ground. It's not debateable at all if you are comparing them with a historian or a plumber.
If it's not their field it is debatable.

A scientist and a historian are academics, a plumber is not.
 

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