"GPs demand €60,000 per year for 'free' care of elderly."

Blokesbloke

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F***ing scandalous how much patients are being charged in Private Nursing Homes.

Thank you Fianna FAIL.
I didn't realise Fianna Fáil were in government, dear?
 


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I don't want to sound like an arse. (Who am I kidding, I don't care.)
Most healthcare spending occurs in the final weeks before death in elderly patients and does nothing except prolong the dying process.
 

General Urko

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Essentially anybody working in the healthcare system dealing with public patients, especially, admin folkies, should be prevented from doing a Jarry Adams and be restricted to using the public system for health treatment and barred from holding private insurance!
That's the very quickest way of improving things!
I would even say it should be part of any public/civil servant's contract!
 

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I don't want to sound like an arse. (Who am I kidding, I don't care.)
Most healthcare spending occurs in the final weeks before death in elderly patients and does nothing except prolong the dying process.
Do you know that for a fact?
I was recently told by a lady that a few years ago when her mother was in hospital, possibly dying she had to berate a nurse who opened a window in the middle of winter in her mother's room. Why because it was quite likely thye old Paddy tactic, give them pneumonia to kill them quicker so they won't incur any more expense. Meanwhile said medickal pros laugh all the way to the bank!
 

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Onje thing that could radically shake up our healthcare system is provide diagnostic equipment for some serious illnesses in GP surgeries eg. colonoscopy machinery and have as is a European norm, GP consultations and medicine at a minimum cost for all, children, those with serious illnesses and senior citizens free and only them!
If we did this we would be on our way to actually becoming a society!
I'd rather a specialist look into my bowel than a GP who just wouldn't have the same expertise in this field.
 

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I don't want to sound like an arse. (Who am I kidding, I don't care.)
Most healthcare spending occurs in the final weeks before death in elderly patients and does nothing except prolong the dying process.
Most? Bit of a stretch there.

There should be a media campaign (once the legislative process is complete) to highlight Living Wills.
Advance Healthcare Directives
 

Fr Peter McWhinger

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Do you know that for a fact?
I was recently told by a lady that a few years ago when her mother was in hospital, possibly dying she had to berate a nurse who opened a window in the middle of winter in her mother's room. Why because it was quite likely thye old Paddy tactic, give them pneumonia to kill them quicker so they won't incur any more expense. Meanwhile said medickal pros laugh all the way to the bank!
The open window in the nursing home has long been a solution to diminished funds and needy inmates.
 

General Urko

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I have been told 2 shocking things about our so called health system in recent times.

1 The husband of an admin worker told me that in her hospital the lovely big knobs sent around a circular to nurses and doctors as the economic tide turned. The thust of the obscene circular was if anybody over 70 came in with an illness/condition likely to finish them that resources were not to be wasted in trying to help them!
Thankfully, at least this time The Medickal Pros ignored the crime against humanity note!

2 In the very same hospital established admin staff have a very neat little scam going - they predominantly live in one area and there is massive travel issues coming in for work and leaving work. So to combat this and facilitate themselves most importantly, they reached an agreement to come in a n hour early each day and leave an hour later most days.
The net result of this little arrangement is that they work up a days holiday per week!
Indeed it seems one of the biggest knobs in it managed to get an entire Summer off and I asked the person who related this to me, how did the hospital get on in this person's absence - it never worked better!
 

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I'd rather a specialist look into my bowel than a GP who just wouldn't have the same expertise in this field.
Them ladz look up a lot of holes, though!:rolleyes:
 

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The open window in the nursing home has long been a solution to diminished funds and needy inmates.
Yeah real concentration camp stuff!
Rem quite a number of Medickal Pros helped maintain such environments in Nazi Germany too!
 

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@General Urko

Yes. G.P.s are Nazis.
You are quite right.
Ireland is safe while it still has minds of your calibre to preserve her freedom.
 

HouseMD

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@General Urko

You are quite astute. Lots of money in killing patients.
Your logic is impeccable.
 

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A G.P. who can check the sigmoid colon could still be a good accessible option for many patients who are languishing on public hospital waiting lists for months or even years.
A full colonoscopy is undoubtedly better than a rigid sigmoidoscopy.
We would alll like an expensive hospitalist to treat us but we wouldn't like to pay the true cost.
G.P care is far cheaper.
 

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It is certainly a major waste of money to delay an often inevitable death.
 

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I remember a few years ago, a head of one of the medics representative bodies being challenged about GP charges and he said the actual economic cost of goiung to a GP was something like €120 for your consultation!
Now a simple question where in the world does it cost anything remotely like that, even the standard €60 to go and see your GP? Where?
Said individual, also came across as the greatest sleeveen imaginable from the way he projected himself in that interview.
Its amazing that such gobshytes are allowed open their mouths. GP's charge no one that much. The most I've paid for a GP visit has been €55. I don't have a medical or GP card so I pay the full economic cost of each visit. I'm subsidized by no one.
 

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@Watcher2

Why spend money trying to get a dying patient to live a few weeks longer?
It is unethical and wasteful.
 

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Its amazing that such gobshytes are allowed open their mouths. GP's charge no one that much. The most I've paid for a GP visit has been €55. I don't have a medical or GP card so I pay the full economic cost of each visit. I'm subsidized by no one.
You are subsidising medical card holders.
 


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