Green lawyer says O'Dea did not correct his Affidavit

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O’Dea claims he corrected his affidavit. This is not true. No correction was made ever to the affidavit – indeed there is no such provision in the rules governing affidavits – it can’t be done.

What the Minister did was to agree a settlement with Maurice Quinlivan which prevented any further airing of the matter before the court. The judge to whom the settlement was announced had no role whatsoever in the case other than to receive the terms of settlement. The court was not appraised of any of the background of the case or asked to comment or adjudicate on the merits of the settlement or how O’Dea conducted himself in the course of the case. To suggest otherwise is false and misleading.
Lowest standard once again wins the day - The Irish Times - Thu, Feb 18, 2010

Endgame.

O'Dea said to the Dáil that he had corrected his Affidavit.

Vincent P Martin BL says that O'Dea did not correct his Affidavit. He explains why that could not be a true statement.

O'Dea has been caught out again.
 
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I have to admit I was really surprised Vincent P Martin wrote this. He is a very loyal Green who was appointed by Gormley (along with fellow failed Green politician Gene Feighery) to the Private Residential Tenancies Board (a lovely little part-time quango job where they get fees and exps of up to €25,000 a year... See my sig).

Vincent would have been seen as a die hard supporter of Gormley. The fact that he wrote this article is very telling.

The Greens are ripping themselves apart.
 

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I have to admit I was really surprised Vincent P Martin wrote this. He is a very loyal Green who was appointed by Gormley (along with fellow failed Green politician Gene Feighery) to the Private Residential Tenancies Board (a lovely little part-time quango job where they get fees and exps of up to €25,000 a year... See my sig).

Vincent would have been seen as a die hard supporter of Gormley. The fact that he wrote this article is very telling.

The Greens are ripping themselves apart.
I respect him for writing it. Remember it would probably have been commissioned and written before the Government announced the motion was being brought forward, and have been in the can to be printed on Thursday. So he was writing it in the expectation that the vote would be next week.
 

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Endgame begins.

I respect him for writing it. Remember it would probably have been commissioned and written before the Government announced the motion was being brought forward, and have been in the can to be printed on Thursday. So he was writing it in the expectation that the vote would be next week.
Read on Tommy -

Vincent P Martin said:
I am saddened both as a lawyer and member of the Green Party, but perhaps mostly as a citizen, that last night the Dáil supported a motion of confidence in Willie O’Dea. There was something pathetic about it all, a mean-spirited loyalty to colleague over country, a reinforcement of the sense of them and us, an overarching and deep feeling that once again the lowest standard wins the day.

The Green Party stands for more. We must be true to ourselves regardless of the consequences. The alternative is to become what we hate.
 
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I'm not going to hold my breath. I sat through too many 'endgames' in relation to his old boss and fellow perjurer to believe that. Low standards in high places is one thing - in this country we specialise in no standards in high places (so long as there's a chance of getting away with it). Cowen has all the moral authority of a door.
 
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I have to admit I was really surprised Vincent P Martin wrote this. He is a very loyal Green who was appointed by Gormley (along with fellow failed Green politician Gene Feighery) to the Private Residential Tenancies Board (a lovely little part-time quango job where they get fees and exps of up to €25,000 a year... See my sig).

Vincent would have been seen as a die hard supporter of Gormley. The fact that he wrote this article is very telling.

The Greens are ripping themselves apart.
Given the background that is significant. I cannot imagine how the Green party are still cohesive. They have become the most despised party in the state, and it is a hatred that can only ever be born by a supporter that feels betrayed.

The article is apt because the evidence is so stark and fatal against O'Dea. yet we are amazed, because we have not seen this kind of approach in this state ever, under any party. V. Martin is only speaking a natural truth. The poor reflection is on the state and its history for him standing out so, and on the Greens for having a member pull them up on such an obvious injustice.
 

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I'm not going to hold my breath. I sat through too many 'endgames' in relation to his old boss and fellow perjurer to believe that. Low standards in high places is one thing - in this country we specialise in no standards in high places (so long as there's a chance of getting away with it). Cowen has all the moral authority of a door.
Oh, I don't know - he's done a fair bit more harm than a door.
 

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Oh, I don't know - he's done a fair bit more harm than a door.
The similarities between Cowen and a door are quite apt:

Both are thick, stiff, wooden and can be in the way. :p
 

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Read on Tommy -
From experience, HE, having done hundreds of op-eds, often when a fast moving story happens, or a new angle emerges, you tweak a paragraph or two and send it into the op ed editor saying 'replace paragraph starting 'This day . . .' with the following new paragraph.'

Often indeed the op ed editor will ring you to tell you there has been a new development and you might want to change paragraphs 1 and 2, etc.

My bet is that the commission predated the announcement of the early vote. The article may even have been in the can by then, but Martin tweaked a few paragraphs to update it for developments. (I had a nightmare once, sitting in a pub quite jarred with a gang of colleagues and getting a call at 9.30 saying a new angle had broken and they wanted me to do a new opening three paragraphs. So the opening three paragraphs of the article as published were written on the back of a beermat ripped open so I could write on it, while jarred, and phoned in to the office while standing drunkenly in the jacks." It must have looked odd - a drunk guy on a mobile phone saying "Ahern's excuse that he was unaware of the claim is not supported by the evidence fullstop new paragraph Burke's statement comma in which he . . ." to someone. The woman who was copytaking was highly professional through, even as I slurred my words and struggled to read my own handwriting on the beermat!!!

Back then we didn't have blackberries or iPhones to send emails from your phone. (We didn't didn't even have colour screens on phones, or cameras! God be with those days!!!)
 

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Back then we didn't have blackberries or iPhones to send emails from your phone. (We didn't didn't even have colour screens on phones, or cameras! God be with those days!!!)
Ach, Tomás, you had it easy. I had to find a co-operative pigeon at 1 a. feckin' m.! ;)
 

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Iread the article a few minutes ago---a very fair presentment of the case-- did Eamonn Ryan or any of his other Green colleagues consult with the writer prior to the Dail vote and if not why not--after all he is a prominent Party member,a member of the Party Reference Committee and one of the small group that negotiated the new programme for Govt. If they did consult then one must conclude that in ignoring his advice they have sold the Green Party down the river. Their actions yesterday have set Green policies back for years and may effectively have destroyed the Party.
 

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Aggressive...I believe (again if what I read here is true) it will be quicker than that.
 

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I said it already but it was confirmed by what Stephen Collins said in the IT tonight, every TD he talked to (privately) said that it there was no doubt that O'Dea would need to go if the greens had pushed it today. However, they didn't. How scared/stupid/ignorant are the greens that they couldn't grasp this basic fact. In fact, they went out and batted for O'Dea. He has to go, he committed perjury. It's as simple as that. If he were a private citizen, he would be hiring a lawyer to prevent him going to jail right now.
 

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The Greens voted against one of the cornerstones of our state to save the skin of O Dea, they will stoop to anything to cling to power. We expect this from FF, but not the Greens. Gormley is an evil man, and dangerous.
 

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Gogarty on MI now defending O'Dea.
 

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Aye... the neck of him.

"It is not a resigning matter".
Jesus does anyone in this government have any principles?
 

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Gogarty on MI now defending O'Dea.
Borrowing a Gogartyism "******************** YOU! Deputy Gogarty, ******************** YOU!!!"
 


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