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harryshounds

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or Patricia McKenna;)
to be fair to patsy she walked from greena fail once they started to shed all their green principals for power. she was also first to cry foul when she heard the greens were going to deal where by they'd support nama in return for a ban on stag hunting and birth control for badgers.
 

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John Gormley and Eamon Ryan will find the dole to be a lot less than their ministerial wages, especially as new claimants are the ones facing welfare cuts:lol::lol::lol:
You may as well have a good laugh for the next while. All will change very soon.

The Hostages to Fortune that FG and Lab have left in their wake over the last 2 years are legion.

FF had to deal with a crisis, and deal with the fact that they created it. But they didn't have to deal with an equal coalition partner.

FG will have to deal with a continuing crisis, and deal with the fact that they aren't able to do all the things they promised to do (which will be reprised ad nauseum), and have to deal with an equal coalition partner who wants to do the polar opposite of what they want to do.

This forum, and every other one like it, will be a very different place by St. Patricks Day 2011.
 

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Senator Niall O Brolchain
What advice would you give him?
Dear Senator/Unelected 'representative',
You have contested 4 elections ( I don't count the 'election' for his Senate position obviously), winning a seat once, in the local elections of 2004, which you subseqently lost in the next elections. This election represents the final nail in the coffin of your political career. Enjoy the last few weeks in the Senate, don't even bother contesting in Galway West, it's a waste of both time and money.
 

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Definitely. However there is a big problem with some of the floater Greens who may have adopted Greenism as some statement of their arrival in the Middle Class. These would be the most likely vote losses for the existing Green candidates because they may have most to lose from the budget cuts and the economic recession. They may return to their traditional large party voting patterns. The true believers are going to wreak havoc on the Greens that they may now consider to be FF collaborators. These would form some of the Greens' electoral infrastructure and without them, the Greens will find it much harder to get their candidates elected. If there is a polarisation of Irish politics underway, then the more radical Greens (Fis Nua or whatever they are called) could, surprisingly, benefit but it would not result in enough votes to get more than one or two candidates elected.

Regards...jmcc
I gave gormless my 3rd choice last time out simply to get rid of McDowell. No green (old or new) will ever get my vote again.
 

Mitsui2

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He also said (in the Seanad) that Politics.ie and Boards.ie were responsible for the hysteria in the economy.
Well wasn't he right?

I don't see any of the responsible media reacting to the possibility that the crooks in power may have manufactured the crisis in 2008 in order to railroad through the bank guarantee - even though the genesis of the story was the leader of a party currently in government!

And yet there was an endless thread on that here.

Is that not hysterical?

If fundamentally undemocratic stuff like that actually mattered, some of the media - at the very least the state broadcaster - would have at least mentioned
it.

Wouldn't they??????
 

Mitsui2

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The green party made an alliance with a right of centre party [ff], now they want a left alliance.I'm afraid they made their bed and unless they are political hookers they can't lay with everyone.
Talk plain English: they supped with the devil (as acknowledged even by themselves); they forgot to bring the long spoon.

They've destroyed Green politics (& by association Green policies) in Ireland for a generation.

And what an important generation they chose.

But so many of us said that to them repeatedly during the NAMA thing. But they fiddled their own vote to get that through anyway.

F***em.

Don't even bury them. Leave their rotting carcases as reminders for others. Where we're going, we at least want our opportunists to be clear-eyed!
 

Mitsui2

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You may as well have a good laugh for the next while. All will change very soon.

The Hostages to Fortune that FG and Lab have left in their wake over the last 2 years are legion.

FF had to deal with a crisis, and deal with the fact that they created it. But they didn't have to deal with an equal coalition partner.

FG will have to deal with a continuing crisis, and deal with the fact that they aren't able to do all the things they promised to do (which will be reprised ad nauseum), and have to deal with an equal coalition partner who wants to do the polar opposite of what they want to do.

This forum, and every other one like it, will be a very different place by St. Patricks Day 2011.
At least oggy wears his FF trollbadge proudly. Gombeen cur!
 

MDaniel

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All the Greens should resign from the Party and join another party to influence or implement green policies from within other parties.
With the exception of the ones who were against entering into government with FF: they should regroup and form a new Green Party with the word "Green." This word in any party's name would be a death wish.
Something like EcoParty or Save the Planet Party (but not Ireland;)).
 

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So does this confirm the Greens are socialists?

They've shot me down for calling them that in the past
 

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I think N O'B is sound enough as a person, but on this occasion I agree with the usual hysterical chorus.
Gilmore will neither want nor need the Greens, going into the election. Afterwards, if by some miracle the Greens save a handful of seats and hold the balance of power, things will appear very different indeed.

But anyway none of this will be happening. Gilmore will be serving under Enda Kenny.
Bets, anyone?
 

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John Gormley and Eamon Ryan will find the dole to be a lot less than their ministerial wages, especially as new claimants are the ones facing welfare cuts:lol::lol::lol:


Does anyone know if rejected Tds/ministers would get any dole since they get huge tax free payouts on leaving office? These payments are supposed to help them while they find other work, or so i thought.

Don't know if they pay PRSI class A which entitles you to dole if enough contributions.
 

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Senator Niall O Brolchain has tweeted about the prospect of a left alliance led by Eamon Gilmore, including Sinn Fein and the Greens.



What advice would you give him?
I think it's a positive move as if a left coalition is to happen after the next election (longshot, I know) it would probably need some Greens or Inds to make up the difference. What would you prefer being dependent on a couple of Greens (investment in sustainable energy - supported by SF and Labour anyway) or Jackie Healy Rae & Michael Lowry.

Also it would make the general election campaign itself more interesting and engaging if there was more than the FG/Lab option on the table for voters.
 

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Gilmore will reject this, as the Glasraí will be no good to him. Only one of them will arive back in Dail on a bicycle made for just one.
To say that Gilmore would reject it would suggest that he would give the proposal serious consideration.

He won't reject it. He won't even give it a second thought.
 

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They're unlikely to have any TDs in the next Dáil so why even bother?!
 

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Senator Niall O Brolchain has tweeted about the prospect of a left alliance led by Eamon Gilmore, including Sinn Fein and the Greens.



What advice would you give him?
Nearly enough for what exactly? 43 seats is only halfway there. What in the name of all that is holy is he on about?
 

talkies

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The Greens aren't left wing. They'll vote through the policies of any government they sit with.
 

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I think the thread has covered nearly every conceivable insult/incredulous comment I might want to make, in this instance. Well done lads and lassies!! :)
op i dont think the list includes this one, <they should be shot with their own schit to make sure that they are dead and dirty>.
 

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