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"Grey Haired Old Men detached from lives of Working Families". Labour Senator on the Cabinet Ministers.


Con Gallagher

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"Grey Haired Old Men detached from lives of Working Families". Labour Senator on the Cabinet Ministers.

By any stretch of the imagination this is an astonishing attack on the Labour Ministers by a member of their own party, Senator John Whelan, in response to yet another regressive budget.

1. Will he face disciplinary action?
2. As a senator he cant vote for or against the budget, so he is reflecting the views of labour TDs who don't have the same freedom of expression?
3. Will Labour make the same mistake as FF in the last election ie letting senior ministers retire without facing the electorate which had a devastating effect on the morale of party workers?
4. Is ageism acceptable in politics?
5. Apart from being one himself, why did Gilmore pick such an old team (eg compare with FG cabinet members)?
6. One assumes that Michael Noonan will step down after the bailout ends next year*, should Gilmore promote a fresher team then of should he do it sooner?

Broken vows: Gilmore in trouble as TDs rebel over Budget - National News - Independent.ie



*two assumptions which may not come to pass.
 

tigerben

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He is only mouthing off because he doesn't have to vote for the budget. If he feels so strongly resign from labour, let him use his feet instead of his mouth.
 

Red_93

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Not far from the truth. But TBF he has a fair few grey hairs himself.
 

Hewson

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By any stretch of the imagination this is an astonishing attack on the Labour Ministers by a member of their own party, Senator John Whelan, in response to yet another regressive budget.

1. Will he face disciplinary action?
2. As a senator he cant vote for or against the budget, so he is reflecting the views of labour TDs who don't have the same freedom of expression?
3. Will Labour make the same mistake as FF in the last election ie letting senior ministers retire without facing the electorate which had a devastating effect on the morale of party workers?
4. Is ageism acceptable in politics?
5. Apart from being one himself, why did Gilmore pick such an old team (eg compare with FG cabinet members)?
6. One assumes that Michael Noonan will step down after the bailout ends next year*, should Gilmore promote a fresher team then of should he do it sooner?

Broken vows: Gilmore in trouble as TDs rebel over Budget - National News - Independent.ie

*two assumptions which may not come to pass.
It's all academic really. Gilmore won't be leader and Labour will be about as relevant as the Greens.
 

ruserious

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We seriously lack in the credible party department in this country going forward.
 

statsman

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6. One assumes that Michael Noonan will step down after the bailout ends next year*, should Gilmore promote a fresher team then of should he do it sooner?
You do know that Noonan is FG, don't you?
 
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It's kind of baffling given y'know...the makeup of the cabinet. Grey haired old men like Jan O'Sullivan, Joan Burton, Alan Kelly, Kathleen Lynch and Sean Sherlock I guess.
 

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It's kind of baffling given y'know...the makeup of the cabinet. Grey haired old men like Jan O'Sullivan, Joan Burton, Alan Kelly, Kathleen Lynch and Sean Sherlock I guess.
Don't forget Noonan's hair. That must indicate something . . .
 

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It's kind of baffling given y'know...the makeup of the cabinet. Grey haired old men like Jan O'Sullivan, Joan Burton, Alan Kelly, Kathleen Lynch and Sean Sherlock I guess.
How many of those are actually in the cabinet? I make it one.
 

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It's kind of baffling given y'know...the makeup of the cabinet. Grey haired old men like Jan O'Sullivan, Joan Burton, Alan Kelly, Kathleen Lynch and Sean Sherlock I guess.
Eh ... only one of the above is a member of cabinet. The rest are Ministers for State.
 

Con Gallagher

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It's kind of baffling given y'know...the makeup of the cabinet. Grey haired old men like Jan O'Sullivan, Joan Burton, Alan Kelly, Kathleen Lynch and Sean Sherlock I guess.
Did I miss the reshuffle? From that list Joan Burton is the only cabinet minister. (Don't you have a thread to close or something moddy?)
 

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'Twas nice to be first in. ;)
 

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He is only mouthing off because he doesn't have to vote for the budget. If he feels so strongly resign from labour, let him use his feet instead of his mouth.
Yep...

There's a lot of cynical tossers in all parties who like to struggle with their consciences in public only to do f*** all about it...

They succumb to the party whip and fall into line eventually...

Best to ignore the f***ers and know that the vast majority of them are insincere self serving w*nkers...
 

Con Gallagher

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Indeed. Only Con's was much more bitchy... :D
I aim to displease. I was going to respond to statman's point of the blindingly obvious (that Noonan is in FG but that his retirement would provide the opportunity for an entire cabinet reshuffle) but having turned on Sync, I thought it would petty.
 
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