Growing crisis between Netherlands and Turkey

Herr Rommel

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Don't make me laugh.
The open door policy which was forced on the people of Europe thanks to Germany is the one and only reason for the rise of political figures like Wilders and Le Penn. Europe as we know it is dying a death of a thousand cuts and when the sh1t hits the fan there will be mayhem.
 


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Indeed, do tell us of an "empire" that isnt. The Brexit one perhaps ?
The EU with their Quisling Politicians /The Quisling Politicians with the EU have been very effective in their "treatment" of European working People.....

One thing for sure nothing is going to change if the present situation continues with the EU Empire .

Brexit at least immediately removed the Quislings Cameron and Osbourne . It will hopefully have the same effect in other European countries........
 

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Hopefully Voters will see that it is a good idea to elect politicians that have the interests of the OWN people as their first priority.........

If it helps with the dis-entigration then its all good.....Its time to break the EU Empire......
It's already happening, the original six are intent on going their own way and the Netherlands is one of them. Might be worth remembering as they seek further integration that it will be a nuclear power courtesy of the French and that they are making no noises about addressing the democratic deficit.

But hey, lets just keep blaming the British, it's so much more fun.
 

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The EU with their Quisling Politicians /The Quisling Politicians with the EU have been very effective in their "treatment" of European working People.....

One thing for sure nothing is going to change if the present situation continues with the EU Empire .

Brexit at least immediately removed the Quislings Cameron and Osbourne . It will hopefully have the same effect in other European countries........
And the impact on the "working people" of Brexitland ?
 

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It's already happening, the original six are intent on going their own way and the Netherlands is one of them. Might be worth remembering as they seek further integration that it will be a nuclear power courtesy of the French and that they are making no noises about addressing the democratic deficit.

But hey, lets just keep blaming the British, it's so much more fun.
Hopefully the Dutch will see sense and vote for the Party most capable of taking the Netherlands out of the EU.
 

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The open door policy which was forced on the people of Europe thanks to Germany is the one and only reason for the rise of political figures like Wilders and Le Penn. Europe as we know it is dying a death of a thousand cuts and when the sh1t hits the fan there will be mayhem.
Wilders (and also the Front National) has been around for quite a bit longer than this "open door policy" you describe (that's what happens when you're one of the longest sitting members of parliament). Indeed, Wilders isn't doing much better in the polls than he actually did in the 2010 election - quite some time before the start of the migrant crisis.
 

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And the impact on the "working people" of Brexitland ?
Do you seriously think the EU are worried about the impact of their policies on the " working people " of Britain .

Elect Your Own Politicians to Look After your Own People............

Do not elect politicians that sell your own people down the river..............
 

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Do you seriously think the EU are worried about the impact of their policies on the " working people " of Britain .

Elect Your Own Politicians to Look After your Own People............

Do not elect politicians that sell your own people down the river..............
I am asking you about the wonderful conditions that will exist for the "working man" in this utopia outside of the EU for example Brexitland ? What will have changed ?
 

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Hopefully the Dutch will see sense and vote for the Party most capable of taking the Netherlands out of the EU.
Vote for such parties? The Dutch electorate as a whole does not consist of masochists, sorry. Sure, there may be some, but not that's not the Dutch electorate as a whole.
 

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I am asking you about the wonderful conditions that will exist for the "working man" in this utopia outside of the EU for example Brexitland ? What will have changed ?
Perhaps when you have an election you won't be electing politicians that are Quislings to the EU . Perhaps you will expect your politicians to work in the interests of their own people and not be subservient to the EU Empire .
 

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One may assume that these particular Turks are "Turkse Nederlanders" as the Dutch call them. Turkish Dutchmen, that is to say, Dutch citizens of Turkish descent and dual nationality. Trouble as they may cause, they are and remain Dutch citizens. Entitled to the same rights (and having the same obligations) as other Dutch citizens. That means they are not to be deported.

Anyway, I very much support the actions my government has taken. The Turks have no business campaigning in the Netherlands to promote Erdogan's authoritarian ambitions. The behavior of the Turkish government and its officials has been disgraceful throughout this entire affair.
The Netherlands should consider restrictions on dual nationality. Is there any advantage to the people of the Netherlands in allowing dual citizenship with Morocco/Turkey?
 

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Vote for such parties? The Dutch electorate as a whole does not consist of masochists, sorry. Sure, there may be some, but not that's not the Dutch electorate as a whole.
Or are they voting for politicians that enjoy being under the EU Dominatrix . Perhaps they like being under the EU " Control ".........
 

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The Netherlands should consider restrictions on dual nationality. Is there any advantage to the people of the Netherlands in allowing dual citizenship with Morocco/Turkey?
Not if they refuse to integrate and Respect Dutch Culture and the Norms of Dutch Life........
 

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I am asking you about the wonderful conditions that will exist for the "working man" in this utopia outside of the EU for example Brexitland ? What will have changed ?
I would think there were many people around saying the same thing when the 1916 rising was in progress.
 

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I would think there were many people around saying the same thing when the 1916 rising was in progress.
Many West Brits/Wannabe Brits like yourself still are . But its not an answer to the question . How will the life of the average worker be better in the utopia that will be Brexitland ?
 

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As George Takei would say "oh my!"

They've put a Turkish flag on the Dutch consulate in Istanbul
 

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Perhaps when you have an election you won't be electing politicians that are Quislings to the EU . Perhaps you will expect your politicians to work in the interests of their own people and not be subservient to the EU Empire .
Really , you expect the Torys in permanent government to be "working for the interests" of the average worker in Brexitland :roll: In other words like most anti EU /Brexiteers you haven't a plan or a clue.
 

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Really , you expect the Torys in permanent government to be "working for the interests" of the average worker in Brexitland :roll: In other words like most anti EU /Brexiteers you haven't a plan or a clue.
Has anyone said that there will not be elections in Britain after Brexit . Political opinion changes.......When you have your own democracy you can change your government ....and you may not even have to keep voting until you get the result the EU Empire tell the quisling politicians to " organise "
 

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The Netherlands should consider restrictions on dual nationality. Is there any advantage to the people of the Netherlands in allowing dual citizenship with Morocco/Turkey?
If you become a Dutch citizen you are required to, if possible, renounce your previous nationality. There are exceptions to this, for example for countries where one is not allowed to renounce their nationality such as Greece or Iran. In Morocco it is not accepted in practice to give up your nationality.

It is, for completely obvious reasons, not possible to impose restrictions with regards to citizenship on those who automatically gain the citizenship of another country through birth, as may be the case.

It's not a question of advantage to the Netherlands, it's a question of treating individuals correctly.
 


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