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Breanainn

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Today FM reporting that John Halligan may vote in favour of the opposition-proposed Irish Water Bill, which aims to abolish both charges and the entity itself. That said, the report also claims that FG may relieve his difficulties through the flooring of a counter-motion, which would take precedence:

Junior minister may vote against Government this week | News | Today FM

Edit - Irish Examiner report similarly:

http://www.irishexaminer.com/breaki...rnment-in-motion-on-water-charges-736659.html
 

Analyzer

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Common sense. IW has been a failure.
 

Dame_Enda

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FF has a choice to make.
 

Lúidín

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OSCURITO: Any company will fail if customers don't pay their bills.
True and 'customers' won't pay bills to a dodgy company where the cash is being trousered by an unanswerable clique.

Also citizens of a republic won't pay unjust taxes for services that they are already paying for.
 

former wesleyan

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What does this clown know about water and waste treatment ? Is he a hydrologist or an engineer of any discipline at all ?
 

GrainneDee

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What does this clown know about water and waste treatment ? Is he a hydrologist or an engineer of any discipline at all ?
Why would you need to be a hydrologist or engineer to know that it's wrong to pay money to a dodgy company that spends more money on bonuses than it does on providing water?
 

constitutionus

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God I'm loving this new "political dispensation "

:D

Blueshirts must be raging.
 

turdsl

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The government closed down the debate on Irish Water using the guillotine,
there was no need to act like dictators they had a massive majority, they still
would not listen to the voice of the people.There had to be a price to pay.
 

turdsl

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What does this clown know about water and waste treatment ? Is he a hydrologist or an engineer of any discipline at all ?
Kenny and his government got kicked out of office for not knowing anything about I.W
Remember his smart answer to Paul Murphy.,
 

statsman

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Today FM reporting that John Halligan may vote in favour of the opposition-proposed Irish Water Bill, which aims to abolish both charges and the entity itself. That said, the report also claims that FG may relieve his difficulties through the flooring of a counter-motion, which would take precedence:

Junior minister may vote against Government this week | News | Today FM

Edit - Irish Examiner report similarly:

Junior Minister set to vote against Government in motion on water charges | Irish Examiner
In which case, he should be relieved of his role and invited to sit on the opposition benches if he wants to oppose the government.
Let's have a GE.
 

ShoutingIsLeadership

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Politician to vote in line with the views of his constituents, shocker.

What's the big deal? A parliament is meant to debate and vote on matters.
 

turdsl

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Its up to Michael Martin to decide when the next general election will be.
I have a feeling he might like to leave Enda in the job for another while.
 
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Oscurito

True and 'customers' won't pay bills to a dodgy company where the cash is being trousered by an unanswerable clique.

Also citizens of a republic won't pay unjust taxes for services that they are already paying for.
You changed the quoting of my post so I wouldn't get the notification. How brave of you. :roll:

FG/Labour made a mess of water charges but that's no reason to go back to the chaos of a funding system we had before.

Unless (uniquely amongst the anti-water charges folks here), you have a solution?
 
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Oscurito

Why would you need to be a hydrologist or engineer to know that it's wrong to pay money to a dodgy company that spends more money on bonuses than it does on providing water?
What figures and sources do you have to back up that statement?
 

fgrep

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In this weeks SBP Halligan spoke about a near death experience he had in 2014 in Spain. He's having another such experience now and once again will be saved and will vote with the government. pigs and troughs etc etc.
Halligan
 

statsman

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Politician to vote in line with the views of his constituents, shocker.

What's the big deal? A parliament is meant to debate and vote on matters.
A government is supposed to share collective responsibility. If he doesn't want that, opposition is the place for him.
 

Lúidín

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Fine Gael is going to wake up soon and realise they lost the election due to their arrogance over Irish Water.
 

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