Has Jobstown been tainted forever?

Wascurito

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You don't need post codes to have the equivalent of post code snobbery. Eircodes might not be comparable to the system of codes in operation in other countries but it doesn't need to be. Cities like Limerick, Cork and especially Dublin have areas that are associated with deprivation and people applying for jobs with an address in a place like Kilbarrack or Darndale start off at an immediate disadvantage. If they're from Clontarf, Killiney or Foxrock, they start off at an immediate advantage.

Jobstown suffers high levels of poverty and unemployment so - even before the recent media circus - it was already was one of those less desirable addresses. For any young person from Jobstown trying to get a job and advance themselves in the world, they didn't need their area to receive more negative coverage in the media.

And there's the rub: it didn't need to be this way. Paul Murphy and his gang could have had their media circus without involving the name Jobstown. Given the (ahem!) under-representation of Jobstown folks, they could have labelled their campaign #SevenNotGuilty, R2WaterNotGuilty or #AusterityIsGuilty or whatever.

Paul Murphy is from a very privileged background and it's very doubtful that he'd have had the opportunities he did had he been born in Jobstown. It's a pity that in his desire to build a little left-wing empire, he sought to besmirch the name of a whole area of Dublin that has been stigmatized enough already.

Paul, a young person growing up in Jobstown will never have the advantages you had. Your decision to associate their whole area with that unpleasant incident in November 2014 has arguably made their future harder than any austerity or government cutbacks.

Perhaps you might ponder that as you embark on your next campaign of shouting and roaring in the street. What's it going to be? #Right2Rubbish?
 


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You don't need post codes to have the equivalent of post code snobbery. Eircodes might not be comparable to the system of codes in operation in other countries but it doesn't need to be. Cities like Limerick, Cork and especially Dublin have areas that are associated with deprivation and people applying for jobs with an address in a place like Kilbarrack or Darndale start off at an immediate disadvantage. If they're from Clontarf, Killiney or Foxrock, they start off at an immediate advantage.

Jobstown suffers high levels of poverty and unemployment so - even before the recent media circus - it was already was one of those less desirable addresses. For any young person from Jobstown trying to get a job and advance themselves in the world, they didn't need their area to receive more negative coverage in the media.

And there's the rub: it didn't need to be this way. Paul Murphy and his gang could have had their media circus without involving the name Jobstown. Given the (ahem!) under-representation of Jobstown folks, they could have labelled their campaign #SevenNotGuilty, R2WaterNotGuilty or #AusterityIsGuilty or whatever.

Paul Murphy is from a very privileged background and it's very doubtful that he'd have had the opportunities he did had he been born in Jobstown. It's a pity that in his desire to build a little left-wing empire, he sought to besmirch the name of a whole area of Dublin that has been stigmatized enough already.

Paul, a young person growing up in Jobstown will never have the advantages you had. Your decision to associate their whole area with that unpleasant incident in November 2014 has arguably made their future harder than any austerity or government cutbacks.

Perhaps you might ponder that as you embark on your next campaign of shouting and roaring in the street. What's it going to be? #Right2Rubbish?
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People from certain postcodes in Dublin have been disadvantaged for years... a protest that turned sour isn't going to change that...

Anyone remember the baton charge in Kevin st in the 80's during the drugs protests...?.........you would be doing well because no one in the 90's did....

Bad language and a water balloon and they are still going on about it three years later.....Christ on a bike the establishment are ripe for overturning....:D
 

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Property and land are the only things valued in Ireland. That's why farmers have so much political power. And that's why people who rent or live in council housing are considered a lower order.
 

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People from certain postcodes in Dublin have been disadvantaged for years... a protest that turned sour isn't going to change that...

Anyone remember the baton charge in Kevin st in the 80's during the drugs protests...?.........you would be doing well because no one in the 90's did....

Bad language and a water balloon and they are still going on about it three years later.....Christ on a bike the establishment are ripe for overturning....:D
If you don't like my bad language just fúck off! Joke petunia
 

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You don't need post codes to have the equivalent of post code snobbery. Eircodes might not be comparable to the system of codes in operation in other countries but it doesn't need to be. Cities like Limerick, Cork and especially Dublin have areas that are associated with deprivation and people applying for jobs with an address in a place like Kilbarrack or Darndale start off at an immediate disadvantage. If they're from Clontarf, Killiney or Foxrock, they start off at an immediate advantage.

Jobstown suffers high levels of poverty and unemployment so - even before the recent media circus - it was already was one of those less desirable addresses. For any young person from Jobstown trying to get a job and advance themselves in the world, they didn't need their area to receive more negative coverage in the media.

And there's the rub: it didn't need to be this way. Paul Murphy and his gang could have had their media circus without involving the name Jobstown. Given the (ahem!) under-representation of Jobstown folks, they could have labelled their campaign #SevenNotGuilty, R2WaterNotGuilty or #AusterityIsGuilty or whatever.

Paul Murphy is from a very privileged background and it's very doubtful that he'd have had the opportunities he did had he been born in Jobstown. It's a pity that in his desire to build a little left-wing empire, he sought to besmirch the name of a whole area of Dublin that has been stigmatized enough already.

Paul, a young person growing up in Jobstown will never have the advantages you had. Your decision to associate their whole area with that unpleasant incident in November 2014 has arguably made their future harder than any austerity or government cutbacks.

Perhaps you might ponder that as you embark on your next campaign of shouting and roaring in the street. What's it going to be? #Right2Rubbish?

Jobstown will be fine, I wonder will the gaelers ever recover.......they really believe this political policing is a good thing.
 

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You don't need post codes to have the equivalent of post code snobbery. Eircodes might not be comparable to the system of codes in operation in other countries but it doesn't need to be. Cities like Limerick, Cork and especially Dublin have areas that are associated with deprivation and people applying for jobs with an address in a place like Kilbarrack or Darndale start off at an immediate disadvantage. If they're from Clontarf, Killiney or Foxrock, they start off at an immediate advantage.

Jobstown suffers high levels of poverty and unemployment so - even before the recent media circus - it was already was one of those less desirable addresses. For any young person from Jobstown trying to get a job and advance themselves in the world, they didn't need their area to receive more negative coverage in the media.

And there's the rub: it didn't need to be this way. Paul Murphy and his gang could have had their media circus without involving the name Jobstown. Given the (ahem!) under-representation of Jobstown folks, they could have labelled their campaign #SevenNotGuilty, R2WaterNotGuilty or #AusterityIsGuilty or whatever.

Paul Murphy is from a very privileged background and it's very doubtful that he'd have had the opportunities he did had he been born in Jobstown. It's a pity that in his desire to build a little left-wing empire, he sought to besmirch the name of a whole area of Dublin that has been stigmatized enough already.

Paul, a young person growing up in Jobstown will never have the advantages you had. Your decision to associate their whole area with that unpleasant incident in November 2014 has arguably made their future harder than any austerity or government cutbacks.

Perhaps you might ponder that as you embark on your next campaign of shouting and roaring in the street. What's it going to be? #Right2Rubbish?
Why not just post to an existing thread that you don't like Paul Murphy, cos that's pretty much the substance of your post, however much you might have tried to dress it up.

It was in the initial reporting of the incident in the msm that the Jobstown label became attached to the incident. The protest movement would have just ran with that since it was established and recognised already, with the obvious intention of organizing resistance to the state persecution.

Anyways, this is far from an unpleasant incident, this was a fantastic victory for the Jobstown accused and supporters, and for the whole country really. They fought for and protected everyone's right to protest, to slow march, to sit down protest. They are the kind of people that artists have written songs about for centuries.
 

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Ironic that the protest took place at a ceremony to honour people from the area who had successfully completed a course to improve their employability and upskill themselves.
 

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They really, really don't like it.
 

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Jobstown will be fine, I wonder will the gaelers ever recover.......they really believe this political policing is a good thing.
Well they have been doing it since the foundation of the state and along with the corruption that has finally brought about in my lifetime a situation where the old order need one half of the arse to prop up the other because Labour are kaput,the political system is in disarray and the best Leo can offer is reheated,clichéd Thatcherisms from the 80's.......:D
 

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Jobstown most certainly has not been tainted forever, not tainted at all

the population of Jobstown in approx. 14,000 people and the protest was attended by, at most, a few hundred people. Also, not all of those few hundred "peaceful protesters" behaved badly.

The majority cannot be held responsible for the minority
 

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You don't need post codes to have the equivalent of post code snobbery. Eircodes might not be comparable to the system of codes in operation in other countries but it doesn't need to be. Cities like Limerick, Cork and especially Dublin have areas that are associated with deprivation and people applying for jobs with an address in a place like Kilbarrack or Darndale start off at an immediate disadvantage. If they're from Clontarf, Killiney or Foxrock, they start off at an immediate advantage.

Jobstown suffers high levels of poverty and unemployment so - even before the recent media circus - it was already was one of those less desirable addresses. For any young person from Jobstown trying to get a job and advance themselves in the world, they didn't need their area to receive more negative coverage in the media.

And there's the rub: it didn't need to be this way. Paul Murphy and his gang could have had their media circus without involving the name Jobstown. Given the (ahem!) under-representation of Jobstown folks, they could have labelled their campaign #SevenNotGuilty, R2WaterNotGuilty or #AusterityIsGuilty or whatever.

Paul Murphy is from a very privileged background and it's very doubtful that he'd have had the opportunities he did had he been born in Jobstown. It's a pity that in his desire to build a little left-wing empire, he sought to besmirch the name of a whole area of Dublin that has been stigmatized enough already.

Paul, a young person growing up in Jobstown will never have the advantages you had. Your decision to associate their whole area with that unpleasant incident in November 2014 has arguably made their future harder than any austerity or government cutbacks.

Perhaps you might ponder that as you embark on your next campaign of shouting and roaring in the street. What's it going to be? #Right2Rubbish?
Then why did they call it jobstown. Silly.
 

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Jobstown most certainly has not been tainted forever, not tainted at all

the population of Jobstown in approx. 14,000 people and the protest was attended by, at most, a few hundred people. Also, not all of those few hundred "peaceful protesters" behaved badly.

The majority cannot be held responsible for the minority
In 20 years time everyone in Jobie will be claiming either they or someone belonging to them was at the protest....:D
 

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yep..and D4 is such a shining light for us all..yep
 

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Property and land are the only things valued in Ireland. That's why farmers have so much political power. And that's why people who rent or live in council housing are considered a lower order.
I dont see any issue with having value in Property and land. I have an issue when the Political class are the vested interests and are in a position to ensure that Property and land is overvalued.
 

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Jobstown most certainly has not been tainted forever, not tainted at all

the population of Jobstown in approx. 14,000 people and the protest was attended by, at most, a few hundred people. Also, not all of those few hundred "peaceful protesters" behaved badly.

The majority cannot be held responsible for the minority
The Establishment media and Politicians ensured that the population of Jobstown and Water protesters were tainted by the States bad handling of a legitimate protest. They are still running with this agenda.
 
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When we went on our long distance runs up as far as the Embankment and back, the pieball races at Jobstown were always amusing to view.

Seriously though, the lick of paint recently that the Jobstown Inn got looks well.
They've even removed the bars from the windows too.

We used refer to that pub as "the Charles Darwin Inn". Some of the mutants standing outside there putting the world to rights...................
 


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