Has Leo V blown it? (And is that such a bad thing?)

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He and Simon Coveney are now on equal odds for leadership. He was short odds on. It looked like it would happen in February, then March, now the 29th April (which year?).

The kennyite clingons will back Coveney.

Leo V is 38, but it feels like he's been around for a long long time. Obama and Cameron were around for less time in Parliament than he, before they made their move.
His "leader"has been around since 1974 and the finance minister is old,sick and very stuck in his ways. A safe pair of hands who was useful in a crisis but should never have been reappointed. His Tanaiste is not Alan Shatter and that is her strongest point. Other ministers include Paul Kehoe, Charlie Flanagan, Mary Mitchel O'Connor - who wouldn't exactly shine in the real world.

That's a lot of potential vacancies - and there are a lot of hungry young FG TDs, looking to a real leader.

This government is a sham of a holding exercise. FF leading opposition while calling the shots. Shane Ross is lost in cabinet collective responsibility. Zappone is a fig leaf. Naughton is pure rural FG - which is good or bad depending on your views.

Leo V had three ministries and let's face it, he hasn't exactly shone. He's more likely to be remembered for speaking off message and coming out than any ministerial achievement - is that what he wants as a legacy? The gaffe-prone gay?

He's proper principled right wing, which makes him the one eyed king in the land of the blind pragmatists.

He could have changed Ireland by encouraging entrepreneurs, dismantling the corporate cronyism and cutting off the NGO/Montrose merry-go-rounders. He could bring the emigrants home to a place where they won't be taxed into oblivion and actually get something in return for the bounty coerced from us. Their broader experience will shape Ireland into a pluralist dynamic meritocracy. Moderate unionists could be green with envy looking south not merely on its wealth but the health of our society. A nation taking its place amongst the nation's of the world.
Not a sleeveen tax haven. Not a land of pixies, peasants and priests. Not the Leitrim of Europe.
Not Enda's Ireland.

It now seems likely we'll get Simon Coveney, a decent man, a family man - someone who has rocked a cradle, won't rock the boat.
 


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He and Simon Coveney are now on equal odds for leadership. He was short odds on. It looked like it would happen in February, then March, now the 29th April (which year?).

The kennyite clingons will back Coveney.

Leo V is 38, but it feels like he's been around for a long long time. Obama and Cameron were around for less time in Parliament than he, before they made their move.
His "leader"has been around since 1974 and the finance minister is old,sick and very stuck in his ways. A safe pair of hands who was useful in a crisis but should never have been reappointed. His Tanaiste is not Alan Shatter and that is her strongest point. Other ministers include Paul Kehoe, Charlie Flanagan, Mary Mitchel O'Connor - who wouldn't exactly shine in the real world.

That's a lot of potential vacancies - and there are a lot of hungry young FG TDs, looking to a real leader.

This government is a sham of a holding exercise. FF leading opposition while calling the shots. Shane Ross is lost in cabinet collective responsibility. Zappone is a fig leaf. Naughton is pure rural FG - which is good or bad depending on your views.

Leo V had three ministries and let's face it, he hasn't exactly shone. He's more likely to be remembered for speaking off message and coming out than any ministerial achievement - is that what he wants as a legacy? The gaffe-prone gay?

He's proper principled right wing, which makes him the one eyed king in the land of the blind pragmatists.

He could have changed Ireland by encouraging entrepreneurs, dismantling the corporate cronyism and cutting off the NGO/Montrose merry-go-rounders. He could bring the emigrants home to a place where they won't be taxed into oblivion and actually get something in return for the bounty coerced from us. Their broader experience will shape Ireland into a pluralist dynamic meritocracy. Moderate unionists could be green with envy looking south not merely on its wealth but the health of our society. A nation taking its place amongst the nation's of the world.
Not a sleeveen tax haven. Not a land of pixies, peasants and priests. Not the Leitrim of Europe.
Not Enda's Ireland.

It now seems likely we'll get Simon Coveney, a decent man, a family man - someone who has rocked a cradle, won't rock the boat.
Who cares.
 

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FG is socially quite conservative and had to be forced by Labour to hold the marriage equality referendum. Is it ready for a LGBT leader?
 

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Leo or Simon ?
You're behind the times.
He has already been chosen.


[video=youtube;TO5K_bxxNQc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TO5K_bxxNQc[/video]
 

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Leo is so OMG :cool:cool:cool: .... and he's ... umm... cool

And he's :pgay:p. Yay, it's cool to be gay... Pantybliss is gay and Pantybilss is so OMG cool

And Leo isn't a :eek:bogger:eek: ... Boggers are so OMG :eek:yeeeew:eek:

All my friends on Facebook think Leo is cool ... and we gotta have a cool Taoiseachperson. Everybody will subscribe to Ireland when we have an OMG cool :cool:Taoiseachperson:cool:.

Everyone else is so :eek:boring!!!!!!:eek:
 

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Leo or Simon ?
You're behind the times.
He has already been chosen.


[video=youtube;TO5K_bxxNQc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TO5K_bxxNQc[/video]
Thats not good. Bilderberg has zero transparency.

Maybe a compromise candidate? And no not Frances. :roll:
 

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Leo hasn't a chance in hell of becoming the next Taoiseach
Zero personality, zero charisma, zero motivation...
Lazy sob
 

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Nobody from FG or FF will ever be a Taoiseach of the majority of Irish people ever again.

They might have the acceptance of the spoofers in the Dail but never of the wider public.

Enda Kenny at the moment is a figure of fun among everybody bar FF and FG.

The majority of people in Ireland do not take this Govt seriously.
 

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Nobody from FG or FF will ever be a Taoiseach of the majority of Irish people ever again.

They might have the acceptance of the spoofers in the Dail but never of the wider public.

Enda Kenny at the moment is a figure of fun among everybody bar FF and FG.

The majority of people in Ireland do not take this Govt seriously.
You won't be taken "seriously" if you keep on posting that rubbish.
 

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You won't be taken "seriously" if you keep on posting that rubbish.
No. But I will be proven right. FF nor FG will never form a Govt without coalecing with another party.

You, my poor unfortunate are living in la la land if you think otherwise
 

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Nobody from FG or FF will ever be a Taoiseach of the majority of Irish people ever again.

They might have the acceptance of the spoofers in the Dail but never of the wider public.

Enda Kenny at the moment is a figure of fun among everybody bar FF and FG.

The majority of people in Ireland do not take this Govt seriously.
Could you suggest someone who could?
 

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Looks like Kenny has divided and conquered for now. FF would go for an election before a new FG leader has the chance to get them back up in the polls.
 

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Looks like Kenny has divided and conquered for now. FF would go for an election before a new FG leader has the chance to get them back up in the polls.
FG's joke of a performance in government will see their support to continue to decrease in the polls
 

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Looks like Kenny has divided and conquered for now. FF would go for an election before a new FG leader has the chance to get them back up in the polls.
BellEnda Kenny has divided and conquered for now, please let it continue so all decent people can enjoy watching FG eat itself!
 

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One thing I like about Leo V is the possible prospect (let's not get carried away here) of a slight widening of the Irish political spectrum along economic lines.
 

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2 cork boys as leaders of the main party's?

Leaves the door open for the Shinners under Marylou to make serious gains in both the women and Dublin vote.
 

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Leo is so OMG :cool:cool:cool: .... and he's ... umm... cool

And he's :pgay:p. Yay, it's cool to be gay... Pantybliss is gay and Pantybilss is so OMG cool

And Leo isn't a :eek:bogger:eek: ... Boggers are so OMG :eek:yeeeew:eek:

All my friends on Facebook think Leo is cool ... and we gotta have a cool Taoiseachperson. Everybody will subscribe to Ireland when we have an OMG cool :cool:Taoiseachperson:cool:.

Everyone else is so :eek:boring!!!!!!:eek:
Do you write for the journal?
 

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Leo is so OMG :cool:cool:cool: .... and he's ... umm... cool

And he's :pgay:p. Yay, it's cool to be gay... Pantybliss is gay and Pantybilss is so OMG cool

And Leo isn't a :eek:bogger:eek: ... Boggers are so OMG :eek:yeeeew:eek:

All my friends on Facebook think Leo is cool ... and we gotta have a cool Taoiseachperson. Everybody will subscribe to Ireland when we have an OMG cool :cool:Taoiseachperson:cool:.

Everyone else is so :eek:boring!!!!!!:eek:
Which says everything about our media, especially RTÉ (Octomum, Wilson & Finucane) & the house magazine of the flat white drinkers the IT not analysing or parsing; rather fawning over a vain, insubstantial individual with a poor record in achievements as minister (that's saying something given the peer group) with Thatcherite views. He's also the poster boy for the clearasil & bow tie wearing elements in YFG (along with Thatcher).

In a way I hope he's their next leader. He'll flip around in a panic like a landed mackeral.
Also the traditional FG and him deserve each other hopefully their richtus embrace will drag each other down to oblivion.
 

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No. But I will be proven right. FF nor FG will never form a Govt without coalecing with another party.

You, my poor unfortunate are living in la la land if you think otherwise
FG have never got an overall majority,
What's your point?
 


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