Has Powersharing Failed?

ruserious

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In light of yesterday's events, the question must be asked...
Has Powersharing Failed?

If it has, does this put the GFA in danger?

If so what is the solution? Joint Authority with the South?

The Tories need the DUP on side to pass Brexit in Parliament should it come before parliament.
This could explode into a crisis that goes beyond NI into the UK and potentially the south too.
 


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In reality there was no power sharing merely a power carve up, Stormont will return and it will be more of the same, close fred.
 

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The simple answer is yes it has.

I think what will involve is some form of power sharing between the UK and the ROI.

The thing is that Loyalists will predictably indulge in a few months of rioting over that and there is a danger in that Dissos may well use that in this period of uncertainty to try and bring back the bad old days by carrying out a couple of murders.
 

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In light of yesterday's events, the question must be asked...
Has Powersharing Failed?

If it has, does this put the GFA in danger?

If so what is the solution? Joint Authority with the South?

The Tories need the DUP on side to pass Brexit in Parliament should it come before parliament.
This could explode into a crisis that goes beyond NI into the UK and potentially the south too.
The solution for a normal society would be an end to power-sharing like the alliance party want.

Power-sharing between minorities happen in the Netherlands(and other places) after the war and then eventually they got rid of it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_general_election,_1918

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consociationalism#Examples

It would be outright madness to try it at NI at this stage to be fair. Netherlands had it for 50 years.
 

Irish-Rationalist

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In light of yesterday's events, the question must be asked...
Has Powersharing Failed?

If it has, does this put the GFA in danger?

If so what is the solution? Joint Authority with the South?

The Tories need the DUP on side to pass Brexit in Parliament should it come before parliament.
This could explode into a crisis that goes beyond NI into the UK and potentially the south too.
Power-sharing hasn't failed. Those who were mandated to share power have done exceptionally well since 1998 given our recent conflict and the political polarity of unionism and republicanism. For the DUP and the Shinners to have worked together so well for so long is nothing short of miraculous, and those who have lambasted them, the politically backward and stagnant TUV for example, are just dinosaurs with no alternative vision for the future other than a return to direct rule.

Arlene Foster and the DUP have failed the power-sharing assembly, and via their ineptitude, flippancy, arrogance and lack of foresight. They've seriously blundered, miscalculated, misplayed their hand, and if Jeffrey Donaldson's predictions that there shall be no return to power-sharing are accurate, the responsibility for the collapse of Stormont lies squarely at the feet of one arrogant and woefully incompetent solicitor. I don't think anyone expected such an outstandingly poor performance from someone who initially exuded what seemed like capability.

The GFA is far from perfect, as it legitimised partition and rubber-stamped the unionist veto, and as time went by I think the Shinners woke up to the DUPs incorrigible nature and total lack of reciprocity in terms of acts of goodwill. A return to direct rule is most likely, as joint authority shall only upset the hardcore Loyalist fraternity, who could threaten a return to violence. The Dissidents shall also seek to exploit the forthcoming political vacuum. Direct rule is of course a retrograde step for republicans, but shall have the anti-GFA faction of unionism rubbing their hands in glee.

In fact, some unionists may go as far as to credit Foster with having pulled off a very clever, devious and surreptitious abandonment of power-sharing, as the collapse of the executive benefits no-one other than stalwart unionists. But the Shinners had to take a stand. Have they been played? Time shall tell..
 

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Arlene takes guidance from BtB. Things like that are what have made Ulster the mess it is.
 

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Arlene takes guidance from BtB. Things like that are what have made Ulster the mess it is.
Listen just because moi went to skol with the owner of the largest wood pellet producing mill in the UK doesn't mean that all those OO halls didn't deserve environmentally friendly cash producing boilers...
 

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A form of joint direct rule or greener direct rule as it's referred to sometimes seems inevitable and desirable at this stage.

I think such an arrangement will help the north in getting a special case status post brexit so it's entirely possible that a lot of middle class unionists will go along with it.
 
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The simple answer is yes it has.

I think what will involve is some form of power sharing between the UK and the ROI.

The thing is that Loyalists will predictably indulge in a few months of rioting over that and there is a danger in that Dissos may well use that in this period of uncertainty to try and bring back the bad old days by carrying out a couple of murders.
There won't be any joint rule. You need to recognise that the republican glory days of having a "useful idiot"* like Blair in Westminster are long gone.

*Copyright Gerry Adams.
 

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"Arlene Foster and the DUP have failed the power-sharing assembly"

It was the Sinners who crashed the assembly. Strangely though it is always someone else's fault.
 

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Disgraceful DUP antics today in Westminster when Margaret Richie was speaking. Trying to shout down a woman who was attempting to have her say on the issues which affect her constituents.

Arlene really needs to sort out these people within her own party.
 

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A form of joint direct rule or greener direct rule as it's referred to sometimes seems inevitable and desirable at this stage.

I think such an arrangement will help the north in getting a special case status post brexit so it's entirely possible that a lot of middle class unionists will go along with it.




Sounds about right, even though the 06C never had full powers in that assembly the Brits nonetheless will grasp this opportunity to get rid ASAP...............can anyone remember that Brit SOS who asked for a large scotch flying into Belfast proclaiming "this awful place"?:lol::lol::lol:
 

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Disgraceful DUP antics today in Westminster when Margaret Richie was speaking. Trying to shout down a woman who was attempting to have her say on the issues which affect her constituents.

Arlene really needs to sort out these people within her own party.
Ritchie was trying to blame unionists for the collapse of Stormont when it was nationalists who brought it down.
 

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Disgraceful DUP antics today in Westminster when Margaret Richie was speaking. Trying to shout down a woman who was attempting to have her say on the issues which affect her constituents.

Arlene really needs to sort out these people within her own party.

MISOGYNISTIC tendencies within Onionism ???????? No big surprise there, ask Wells and Poots, many more if you wish Mac.:lol::lol::lol:
 

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Ritchie was trying to blame unionists for the collapse of Stormont when it was nationalists who brought it down.


Sounds like the girl who borrowed her colleagues car, totalled it, then told her colleague it was her fault and she needs to suffer the damage.....what a clown you are mange.
 

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"Arlene Foster and the DUP have failed the power-sharing assembly"

It was the Sinners who crashed the assembly. Strangely though it is always someone else's fault.
If you're going to quote me use the quotation facility. That way you show some decorum and are guaranteed to receive a considered response.
 


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