Hate Crime in Ireland

hollandia

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According to several media reports this morning, Ireland has the highest rates of hate crime in the EU against people of African origin and against Transgender people.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/ireland-has-highest-rate-of-hate-crime-in-eu-against-african-and-transgender-people-852917.html

This is no surprise to regular perusers of P.ie, given the level of dedicated right wing wingnuttery that is often on display here on a daily basis.

What is surprising though, is that our judicial system does not have the appropriate laws to deal with hate crime, with the "hate" element of the hate crime being gradually filtered out through the judicial process.

https://www.rte.ie/news/crime/2018/0704/976199-hate_crime/

The Lifecycle of a Hate Crime: Country Report for Ireland shows that, from the point at which a victim reports a crime to the gardaí to the point at which a judge sentences an offender, the hate element of a crime is filtered out of the criminal justice process.

Commissioner Emily Logan said: "It is not the responsibility of victims to avoid being targets of hate crime: the State, as the principal duty bearer - has a responsibility to send a clear message to society that hate crime is not tolerated.

"Hate Crime has a real-world, oppressive and damaging effect on those who fall victim to it. Hate Crime can cause people to withdraw from society and avoid expressing their identity.

"When unchallenged, hate crime carries consequences well beyond the immediate victim.

"It has the power to act as a 'message crime' - the ability to send out a message to an entire community - to warn off those who stray from the norm.

"It can also cause people to alter their daily lives to avoid further victimisation, including moving neighbourhood or job."
Executive Director of the Irish Council for Civil Liberties Liam Herrick said: "This report identifies significant gaps in Irish law, policy and criminal justice practice around how we respond to the problem of hate crime."
https://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/state-has-responsibility-to-send-message-about-hate-crime-472574.html

AGS of course, performed a passable Pontius Pilate act:

At a meeting of Garda chiefs and the Policing Authority last week, the force’s top statistician, Dr Gurchand Singh said they had questions over the integrity of the data on hate crime.

Assistant Commissioner for Community Engagement Pat Leahy said he “wouldn’t be hugely confident” over the reliability of the hate crime figures.

Sgt Dave McInerney, head of the Garda Racial, Intercultural and Diversity Office, said training of gardaí was “imperative” in responding to suspected hate crimes and interacting with people from ethnic minorities.

AC Leahy said resources for the Racial Office “haven’t kept pace” and that “more structure” was needed.
Link to the report here:

https://www.iccl.ie/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/Hate-Crime-Report-LR-WEB.pdf

It appears, from the first government reactions, that appropriate legislation may well be coming, and I would expect opposition parties and TDs to pursue the implementation of same vigourously.

Link to ENAR's proposals for hate crime legislation here:

Proposed Hate Crime Legislation « enarireland.org
 


Herr Rommel

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Where are the stats to back this claim up?
 

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According to several media reports this morning, Ireland has the highest rates of hate crime in the EU against people of African origin and against Transgender people.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/ireland-has-highest-rate-of-hate-crime-in-eu-against-african-and-transgender-people-852917.html

This is no surprise to regular perusers of P.ie, given the level of dedicated right wing wingnuttery that is often on display here on a daily basis.

What is surprising though, is that our judicial system does not have the appropriate laws to deal with hate crime, with the "hate" element of the hate crime being gradually filtered out through the judicial process.

https://www.rte.ie/news/crime/2018/0704/976199-hate_crime/





https://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/state-has-responsibility-to-send-message-about-hate-crime-472574.html

AGS of course, performed a passable Pontius Pilate act:



Link to the report here:

https://www.iccl.ie/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/Hate-Crime-Report-LR-WEB.pdf

It appears, from the first government reactions, that appropriate legislation may well be coming, and I would expect opposition parties and TDs to pursue the implementation of same vigourously.

Link to ENAR's proposals for hate crime legislation here:

Proposed Hate Crime Legislation « enarireland.org
AGS seem to think that everyone's data is as unreliable as theirs.
 

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Hate crime in Ireland has a history......as does the supremicism of a particular political cult.



And...they have not gone away, ya know.

In fact....they have merely spent a fortune on PR, and rebranded as virtue signalling posers.

Except, when they unleash their true nature.

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I wonder how much of it is fostered by dimwits on social media? Hate crimes dont spring fully-formed from the air.

There is always a group of scummy little cowards, who would be too scared to say boo to a goose themselves, fabricating a narrative that the target group is about to overwhelm the natives etc etc.
 

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According to several media reports this morning, Ireland has the highest rates of hate crime in the EU against people of African origin and against Transgender people.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/ireland-has-highest-rate-of-hate-crime-in-eu-against-african-and-transgender-people-852917.html

This is no surprise to regular perusers of P.ie, given the level of dedicated right wing wingnuttery that is often on display here on a daily basis.

What is surprising though, is that our judicial system does not have the appropriate laws to deal with hate crime, with the "hate" element of the hate crime being gradually filtered out through the judicial process.

https://www.rte.ie/news/crime/2018/0704/976199-hate_crime/





https://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/state-has-responsibility-to-send-message-about-hate-crime-472574.html

AGS of course, performed a passable Pontius Pilate act:



Link to the report here:

https://www.iccl.ie/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/Hate-Crime-Report-LR-WEB.pdf

It appears, from the first government reactions, that appropriate legislation may well be coming, and I would expect opposition parties and TDs to pursue the implementation of same vigourously.

Link to ENAR's proposals for hate crime legislation here:

Proposed Hate Crime Legislation « enarireland.org
so a bunch of knackers in Finglas or west Dublin are politically motivated "right wing nuts" geeerrr uuup the yaaaard
 

hollandia

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I wonder how much of it is fostered by dimwits on social media? Hate crimes dont spring fully-formed from the air.

There is always a group of scummy little cowards, who would be too scared to say boo to a goose themselves, fabricating a narrative that the target group is about to overwhelm the natives etc etc.
See post above yours. It's also marked by the exploitation of the thick, by those with an ulterior motive.
 

hollandia

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so a bunch of knackers in Finglas or west Dublin are politically motivated "right wing nuts" geeerrr uuup the yaaaard
No, but posters like you are. Unless you're telling me you're also a "Finglas Knacker".
 

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Does this include NI cos there's barely a week passes without seeing hate crimes reported in NI?

Some folks up north seem to be a bit unhinged and can only function if they're attacking someone else... based on race, gender, religion etc... doesn't seem to matter much as long as there's someone to have a go at...

Don't hear so much about similar crimes down south - or are they simply not reported in our media?

Sadly from reading a lot of the relentless bile posted on here on a daily basis it's obvious there are plenty of sickos in the south too however...
 

hollandia

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Does this include NI cos there's barely a week passes without seeing hate crimes reported in NI...

Some of them seem to be a bit unhinged and can only function if they're attacking someone else... based on race, gender, religion etc.

Don't hear so much about similar crimes down south - or are they simply not reported in our media?

Sadly from reading a lot of the relentless bile posted on here on a daily basis it's obvious there are plenty of sickos in the south too however...
NI would be included in the equivalent UK version of the report, I would imagine, Spanner. I understand this to be an EU wide survey, and the report is the summation of the Irish findings.
 

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The whole logic behind "hate crime" is that crimes done by certain groups against other groups are by that fact worse than the same crimes committed on people within your own group. I reject this logic.
 


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