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Haughey's papers handed over


stanley

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From today's Irish Times:

"THE LONG association between Charles Haughey and the Blasket Island of Inismhicileáin (pronounced “Inishvickillaun”) off the Kerry coast is the subject of a collection of papers donated yesterday to the State by the late taoiseach’s family.

Speaking at the Great Blasket Island visitor centre in Dún Chaoin (Dunquin), Dr Martin Mansergh, Minister of State for the Office of Public Works, said he was delighted to accept the seven large boxes of personal papers belonging to a man with whom he “had the honour” to work, in a close capacity, for 11 years.



“The collection of personal papers, being kindly presented by the Haughey family to the Blasket centre, reflects the broad range of interests of the former taoiseach.



Speaking on behalf of the family, Sean Haughey, who is Minister for State at the Department of Education and Science, recalled how his father had a great love for west Kerry ever since his first visit to the Ballyferriter area in 1940".





Reckon that lad who danced on Haughey's grave had a far greater understanding of Haughey's legacy to the Irish nation, he was the original Godfather and nurtured such Goodfellas as Lawlor, Ahern, Burke, Callely all taken from a DNS background and elevated to the national (rip off) stage.

Get a little sick of the Haughey family's wonderful view of their crooked father and their regular revisionist trips.

Would feel most people think just give back the ill-gotten gains and plss off to whatever hole treats this family like royalty, they are a talentless bunch, their wealth built on the corrupt deals of their father be it forcing through planning permission, making sure utility pipes went through, passports for sale, thanks big fella, daddy lenny's sick fund it goes on and and on.

Keep your bloody papers and just give back the monies.
 

mickdotcom

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If they had any decency they would hand over the deeds to the Island

as well as the papers,
 

Tomas Mor

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Wonder if his papers are not a pack of lies. At least Peig Sayers for all her gloominess wrote the truth as she saw it. Where is the shame of the Haughey family and FF in having this done iun public, with two ministers travelling there , at our expense I assume. I suppose Pádí Hog O'Shea was present for this unique event.
 

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The recollections in the Haughey papers are probably as accurate as those in a Willie O'Dea affidavit.
 

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Speaking on behalf of the family, Sean Haughey, who is Minister for State at the Department of Education and Science, recalled how his father had a great love for west Kerry ever since his first visit to the Ballyferriter area in 1940".

He had a lot of love to go around,,,, pity he didn't have any for the country that sponsored his lushes like,, he was as straight as a dogs hind leg.
 

stanley

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Wish Ferris and his mates would blow up Sweetie's bust in Dingle or wherever it is maybe the lad who does the shotgun start for the regatta could have a pop.

Shouldn't someone hand over Terry Keane's papers she knew him better and probably spent more time with him than anyone in his family, they really should have a portrait picture of Terry with them in that family pic on the IT, if only for completion purposes.

What kinda guy marries his daughter off to his matefor the fish fingers fortune, could go on and on with this crew.
 

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Good for the family. Charles Haughey, though vain and corrupt, still achieved more for country than Lynch, Cowen, Ahern, Bruton, Fitzgerald, and Liam cosgrave. The period between 1987 to 1992, when his programme for
National recovery did what it said on the tin. Look at the current deficit figures if you are too blinded by hatred. Even if he had never been Taoiseach he would be historically important for his ministerial efforts. It is a shame that he was not the leader when the bank guarantee was agreed. In summary he was s vile man but a great leader who would have achieved more but for his greed.
 

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Good for the family. Charles Haughey, though vain and corrupt, still achieved more for country than Lynch, Cowen, Ahern, Bruton, Fitzgerald, and Liam cosgrave. The period between 1987 to 1992, when his programme for
National recovery did what it said on the tin. Look at the current deficit figures if you are too blinded by hatred. Even if he had never been Taoiseach he would be historically important for his ministerial efforts. It is a shame that he was not the leader when the bank guarantee was agreed. In summary he was s vile man but a great leader who would have achieved more but for his greed.
Absolutely. The emotion I'm left with when I think of Haughey is sadness. He was such a waste of potential.
 

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Absolutely. The emotion I'm left with when I think of Haughey is sadness. He was such a waste of potential.
Would you not agree that he was the originator of much of our woes - and bequeathed us the likes of Burke, Flynn, Lalor, Ahern etc. He certainly had ability but put it to bad use, apart maybe from the period 1987 on, but even then peculiar things were going on. I would be interested to know how he would have handled the bank guarantee, to be fair to him he would not have been bullied or stampeded into making an urgent nocturnal 11th hour decision I would think.
 

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Would you not agree that he was the originator of much of our woes - and bequeathed us the likes of Burke, Flynn, Lalor, Ahern etc. He certainly had ability but put it to bad use, apart maybe from the period 1987 on, but even then peculiar things were going on. I would be interested to know how he would have handled the bank guarantee, to be fair to him he would not have been bullied or stampeded into making an urgent nocturnal 11th hour decision I would think.
His acolytes were another by product of his corruption. So I agree there but it's just another reason to feel sad about his behaviour. But then again, if he'd not been corrupt what acolytes would he have left us then? That crew would probably have made it anyway.

I think he would have done just the same on the State guarantee except he would have nationalised them too. He was an arch Statist because in his head he was the country.
 

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Would you not agree that he was the originator of much of our woes - and bequeathed us the likes of Burke, Flynn, Lalor, Ahern etc. He certainly had ability but put it to bad use, apart maybe from the period 1987 on, but even then peculiar things were going on. I would be interested to know how he would have handled the bank guarantee, to be fair to him he would not have been bullied or stampeded into making an urgent nocturnal 11th hour decision I would think.


No way would he have been stampeded, he would have been down in Le Coq Hardi with Terry and told them to wait until he was ready, in the morning, a few days but when HE was ready and he would have exacted a revenge on AIB that would have heads on silver trays.

Biffo did not learn from CJH's table.
 

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No way would he have been stampeded, he would have been down in Le Coq Hardi with Terry and told them to wait until he was ready, in the morning, a few days but when HE was ready and he would have exacted a revenge on AIB that would have heads on silver trays.

Biffo did not learn from CJH's table.

But biffo still rang haugheys friend mr Desmond for advice when the banks were in trouble ( according to FF "sources")
 

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The title of this thread had me thinking that they had be given to CAB, finally some justice in the world, unfortunately not.
 

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must be some very old brown manilla envelopes in that collection. The stamps might prove valuable if still attached
 

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I think history will be much kinder to Charles J Haughey, for all his vices and crooked ills, than to Bartholemew P Ahern.

Haughey has left considerable legislative, economic and physical achievements and legacies.

What has Ahern left to the Irish nation and future generations?

And, AFAIK, the Haughey family was considering transferring Innisvickilaune to the State some years ago following CJH's death. Not sure what became of that or whether it would be a bequest or a sale. Seem to remember a figure of €2m be floated as the value if the OPW was to purchase from the family.
 
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