Herd immunity policy in the UK against Covid-19



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The Chief Medical Officer position in the UK, is a position, because of it's authority, it would be "vetted" by the Freemasons in the City of London to ensure the holder was ideologically sound; certainly not someone who would interfere with business.
The 'let it rip' strategy is high risk, because Britain also, does not seem to be taking measures to insulate the elderly in nursing homes or patients and health professionals and health staff in hospitals. Hospitals will become overwhelmed and knocked out of action.
Shutting schools and colleges would have been a way to stagger the spread of Covid-19 by limiting person to person interactions in the youth population while leaving the economically productive part of the population alone.
The City of London has been running Britain for the last four centuries, it has been one Kingdom since James II. The Queen walks behind the Mayor of the City, when she visits every November, the message being who really runs Britain.
 
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The City of London has been running Britain for the last four centuries, it has been one Kingdom since James II. The Queen walks behind the Mayor of the City, when she visits every November, the message being who really runs Britain.
No, the message being who runs the City.
 

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The Chief Medical Officer position in the UK, is a position because of it's authority, it would be "vetted" by the Freemasons in the City of London to ensure the holder was ideologically sound; certainly not someone who would interfere with business.
The 'let it rip' strategy is high risk, because Britain also, does not seem to be taking measures to insulate the elderly in nursing homes or patients and health professionals and health staff in hospitals. Hospitals will become overwhelmed and knocked out of action.
Shutting schools and colleges would have been a way to stagger the spread of Covid-19 by limiting person to person interactions in the youth population while leaving the economically productive part of the population alone.
The City of London has been running Britain for the last four centuries, it has been one Kingdom since James II. The Queen walks behind the Mayor of the City, when she visits every November, the message being who really runs Britain.
Actualy it has been under one king since James I in 1603, but was officially not a single kingdom until 1707.
 
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Suppose other countries, like China, Italy perhaps Ireland too etc. successfully contain and remove the virus from the population by locking down and quarantine at great economic cost, a British could get in these countries and spread the virus again(because they are probably still working on reaching the target of getting at least 60% of British infected)?
 

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Suppose other countries, like China, Italy perhaps Ireland too etc. successfully contain and remove the virus from the population by locking down and quarantine at great economic cost, a British could get in these countries and spread the virus again(because they are probably still working on reaching the target of getting at least 60% of British infected)?
The British have no such plans.
 

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Shutting schools and colleges would have been a way to stagger the spread of Covid-19 by limiting person to person interactions in the youth population while leaving the economically productive part of the population alone.
Unfortunately, it would not leave the economically productive part of the population alone. That part of the population often have children who need to be supervised when not at school. Grandparents will not be available as they are most at risk. So who will look after children who are not at school? Hardly the grandparents??????
 

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I think this is a game changer, however, a disastrous game changer. All countries and peoples fighting the virus will be affected in the long run.

Coronavirus: Millions of Britons will need to contract COVID-19 for 'herd immunity'
There's a distinct aroma of Brexit from the belated British response. For Britain this is a global crisis on top of a self-inflicted crisis which might explain why their focus was elsewhere -especially with the ridiculous timetable which they insist they are keeping to. We'll see how this pans out now though as the pandemic will likely give Boris a chance to slide out of the timetable and request an extension. Of course some Brexit influenced people are offended by the notion that the British might have to do what other Europeans have done. I can see them chanting 'we're a herd we are'.

There was also the Brexit -like political division up north where the SF side want to go with a quicker response in line with the south and other European countries. I'm surprised that Eoghan Harris or Dudley Edwards hasn't started a campaign to stop this school-closing nonsense as it's obviously offensive to Protestants and will likely further the cause of a united Ireland.;) Of course it's perfectly possible that the Irish are jumping sooner than they need to and no doubt the truth of whether this is true or not will become clear in the months ahead. If the question arises as to whether the British were right or the Irish then the truth will depend on the answer to one question. 'Did acting earlier do any harm?' Only an affirmative answer to that question would excuse the British response.
 
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Suppose other countries, like China, Italy perhaps Ireland too etc. successfully contain and remove the virus from the population by locking down and quarantine at great economic cost, a British could get in these countries and spread the virus again(because they are probably still working on reaching the target of getting at least 60% of British infected)?
Has anybody ever stopped the Flu spreading ? ?

If Social / Herd Immunity works, then it is the way to go. I assume the experts know better than normal people whether it will work or not.

We must hope it works because nobody has ever stopped the flu spreading so its unlikely they will stop Covid -19 spreading either.
 

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Has anybody ever stopped the Flu spreading ? ?

If Social / Herd Immunity works, then it is the way to go. I assume the experts know better than normal people whether it will work or not.

We must hope it works because nobody has ever stopped the flu spreading so its unlikely they will stop Covid -19 spreading either.
Herd immunity does not work.
 

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Herd immunity does not work.
It would work if you could be sure that those that got infected became immune.

This is a kind of Vacine. if you could be sure that the only people that got infected were those that recovered and that this was a high enough % of the population then Social / Herd Immunity can work.
 

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Has anybody ever stopped the Flu spreading ? ?

If Social / Herd Immunity works, then it is the way to go. I assume the experts know better than normal people whether it will work or not.

We must hope it works because nobody has ever stopped the flu spreading so its unlikely they will stop Covid -19 spreading either.
. During the 1918 flu pandemic, Poyer quarantined the territory to stop the spread of the pandemic to American Samoa. Because of his actions, no deaths occurred in American Samoa, and he received the Navy Cross.
 

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IMO this plan has quite a few possible holes but (as I've just said on another thread) the biggest possible Achilles' heel of this approach is that we don't know how long such immunity lasts. For example, a virologist in this twitter thread points out that immunity in this virus family is usually fairly short (just months). I've seen it said elsewhere that some kind of immunological memory may last for a year or two (reinfection by the same virus is possible but the body reacts better and less severely to it within that period). If that's the case, an outbreak of the same virus next year, might still spread around widely, and while the previously infected surviving 60 or 70% may get away fairly unscathed, the supposedly protected 30% may just die like flies on the second round!
 

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Looks like the British are officially giving up on "herd immunity" anyway.


Was it all a front to show British Churchillian, bulldog, stand-alone grit? Possibly.
 


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