Herd immunity policy in the UK against Covid-19

owedtojoy

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Theresa May is attacking Johnson over Covid and Brexit.


For all May's faults (and they were many), she would have made a far better job of the Covid Crisis than Johnson. No fear of her being in hospital and incapacitated for 3 weeks, or missing COBRA meetings.

Nor would she be trying to sneak in a no-deal Brexit under the cover of the pandemic, like Johnson is.
 


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A hopeful sign.

No time to lose the run of oneself ... Johnson still has a majority of 87, but he seems to have lost his popularity edge pretty quick. As for his competence edge ... well, it was Jeremy Corbyn he was being compared to. MPs whose seats were loaned to them by Labour voters may be worried.
 

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Boris did not do his homework, as usual.

Quoted online is a letter from the Hedmaster of Eton to Boris' father back in the day "Boris is affronted ... he has not been made School Captain ... he seems to think it is churlish of us not to regard him as an exception, free of the network of obligation that binds everyone else ... ". See 11:00 in the video below.

As the boy was, so the man is.


James O'Brien is making a good living from scorching Johnson regularly.
James O’Brien has Mental Health Issues and LBC ( his employer ) is failing in their duty of care for him.
 

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Reports Alok Sharma met with Johnson and Sunak before becoming ill. They may have to self isolate.
 

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Reports Alok Sharma met with Johnson and Sunak before becoming ill. They may have to self isolate.
Gotta admire Rees Mogg for not allowing this, or the sight of complaining MPs queuing like welfare cheque collectors change his mind on remote voting.
 

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Gotta admire Rees Mogg for not allowing this, or the sight of complaining MPs queuing like welfare cheque collectors change his mind on remote voting.
Well they are on the Social ! Paid for out of Social contributions ! !
 

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So that would be twice as long to get working as was intended. World class.

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The NHS coronavirus test-and-trace system designed to prevent a second deadly wave is not expected to work at full speed until September or October, the Guardian has learned.

Tony Prestedge, the chief operating officer of the NHS scheme, admitted in a webinar to staff that the programme would be “imperfect” at launch, adding that he hoped it would be operational at a world-class level within three to four months.

It comes as a leaked email from the chief executive of Serco – one of the main companies contracted to deliver the service – revealed how he doubted the scheme would evolve smoothly but said he wanted it to “cement the position of the private sector” in the NHS supply chain.
 

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R rate still above 1 in NW and SW.

 

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A hopeful sign.

No time to lose the run of oneself ... Johnson still has a majority of 87, but he seems to have lost his popularity edge pretty quick. As for his competence edge ... well, it was Jeremy Corbyn he was being compared to. MPs whose seats were loaned to them by Labour voters may be worried.
This really means nothing 5 years out from another GE. Corbyn was relentlessly attacked by the media, in one of the most comprehensive and vitriolic campaigns ever launched on an opposition leader in British History.

Starmer doesnt represent any danger what so ever to the establishment over there so he'll be given a much easier ride by the Guardian and the Observer. If Starmer follows Blair and goes to Murdock doffing the cap, telling him that he's a red Tory just like Blair, then some of the RW press might give him an easy ride too. If he doesn't then he will be attacked, less viciously than Corbyn but attacked none the less and watch those approval ratings fall.
 

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Alok Sharma has tested negative for Covid 19.
Bit odd that - presumably social distancing will also reduce transmission of all the other microbes like colds and flu and so on. So he didn’t catch Covid but he did catch something that’s far less infectious than this Coronavirus? I wonder how.
 

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Dido Harding is hilariously out of her depth. She's taking a novel approach though at the Health Select Committee.

The Office of Statistics have repeatedly said her figures are shit.

The HSC is demanding she provides basic stats like "What % of people get their test done within 24 hours" and "How many tests have actually been done".

And she just keeps saying she wants to, but she wants the OS to validate the figures first.

So basically she's taking her incompetence and making it the OS's responsibility.
I mean it's not funny because her incompetence is contributing to the elevated death rate in the country, but Dido is a Thick Of It level comedy figure.


Boris on the app:
We will have a test, track and trace operation that will be world-beating and, yes, it will be in place by June 1.

Hancock:
We do need to have comprehensive test, track and trace in place as soon as possible. And we need to get the technology right, we need to have the people, and we’re building that resource, and obviously we need to have the testing and we’re ramping that up as well.

But Dido thinks the app is just a nice to have and really it's the process that matters, but she doesn't have the process in place either.

Maybe the person to put in charge of developing an app and supporting system would be an ex Google/Facebook/Intel/Jaguar bod as opposed to someone who likes horsies. Oh she's married to a Tory MP? Coincidink. She's there on merit.
 

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"In the long run, we are all dead" JM Keynes.

But yer man I think is blowing shyte, because he seems to be miles out of his field. There is usually an agreed protocol for what is considered a countable death or not - that is basic medical statistics. And for wrongly counted deaths to be 50% or more ... that is just wild gibberings because he has not a shred of evidence.
It seems to me that anyone who is trying to lower the seriousness of the world wide corona virus pandemic is a bit irresponsible.
 

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Hancock's really very bad at his job.

The British Medical Association has demanded an explanation from the government following reports that pages containing recommendations to protect black, Asian and minority ethnic (BAME) communities were removed from last week’s Covid-19 disparity report.
In a letter sent to health secretary Matt Hancock, shared exclusively with the Guardian, the head of the BMA called for the missing pages and recommendations to be published immediately.
Dr Chaand Nagpaul CBE, the BMA council chair, noted his concern over reports that 69 pages covering seven recommendations were removed from last week’s Public Health England’s report.

“I’m finding it inexplicable the government did not release the full report at a time not only when the BAME community suffered so disproportionately with the virus, but also at a time when there was global outcry and outrage to racial inequalities,” Nagpaul said.
 


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