Here we go again. No gay wedding invites here we are Christian..............

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Firm refuses to print invites to gay wedding for second time - Independent.ie

For the second time a print has refused to print invitations to a gay wedding because of their beliefs.

Yesterday, co-owner Noel Tuite confirmed that a woman had called into the office and asked about printing the wedding invites.
"It is true. We declined to print the invitations," said Mr Tuite.

Asked was the refusal based on religious grounds, he said: "We are Christians. It was on grounds of our faith."
A part of me admires them for sticking to their guns knowing full well the adverse publicity that will follow. It takes a lot of courage or a lot of brass neck. A part of me says you are providing a service and cannot discriminate. The gal herself said..................

WOW. I thought this country had moved on from that."
If you mean move on as jettisoning religious belief well no people still hold trenchant religious beliefs.
 


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Firm refuses to print invites to gay wedding for second time - Independent.ie

For the second time a print has refused to print invitations to a gay wedding because of their beliefs.



A part of me admires them for sticking to their guns knowing full well the adverse publicity that will follow. It takes a lot of courage or a lot of brass neck. A part of me says you are providing a service and cannot discriminate. The gal herself said..................



If you mean move on as jettisoning religious belief well no people still hold trenchant religious beliefs.

Except that nowhere do their religious beliefs say that they must be bigots.
They are hiding behind their religion to be ******************************************s.
 

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But old man Joseph marrying a pre-pubescent child is ok?
 

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I could give them the name of a small Muslim printing business I know?
 

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Except that nowhere do their religious beliefs say that they must be bigots.
They are hiding behind their religion to be ******************************************s.
No. Christian fundamentalists hold homosexuality to be a sin.
 

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I don't see what the issue is here.
Let them say no.

Then let those who disagree move their business elsewhere.
If enough people are truly against such discrimination, then this shop will go bust very, very quickly.

If the shop thrives however ...
 

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Gay fascists are right, Grindr them down.
 

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If you mean move on as jettisoning religious belief well no people still hold trenchant religious beliefs.
No they just hide their trenchant homophobia behind their religious beliefs.
 

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I don't see what the issue is here.
Let them say no.

Then let those who disagree move their business elsewhere.
If enough people are truly against such discrimination, then this shop will go bust very, very quickly.

If the shop thrives however ...
Yeah, man. Let them refuse to serve dem dere niggas too
 

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A part of me says you are providing a service and cannot discriminate.
Is running a printers providing a service? Other printers are available, happy to do the job. Would a republican printer be able to refuse to print a notice for a loyalist march or a conservative printer refuse to print socialist posters?
 

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No. Christian fundamentalists hold homosexuality to be a sin.
Most religions hold the practice of homosexuality to be a sin. We live in a republic, supposedly.
 

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I'd go with a market based approach with the one proviso that people looking up the business should know in advance that it is a Christian, Jewish, Muslim business and use your common sense about what you want them to do. your Jewish part theme shop might not want to do your hitler themed party whereas the Muslim owned one probably wouldn't have an issue.
 

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Is running a printers providing a service? Other printers are available, happy to do the job. Would a republican printer be able to refuse to print a notice for a loyalist march or a conservative printer refuse to print socialist posters?
The points you raise are valid but yes running a printer is providing a service. If she was refused generic invitations it would be cut and dried, but like the bakers in Belfast if it was custom made to be an obvious gay wedding the printers would have a case.

Most religions hold the practice of homosexuality to be a sin. We live in a republic, supposedly.
And in a republic you have the right to believe.
 

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I don't see what the issue is here.
Let them say no.

Then let those who disagree move their business elsewhere.
If enough people are truly against such discrimination, then this shop will go bust very, very quickly.

If the shop thrives however ...
Seems both sides are seeking out controversy.

The woman would have to have been aware of the printers previous record and the printer could have turned down the business on any number of grounds but chose to make an issue of her sexuality.
 

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I'd go with a market based approach with the one proviso that people looking up the business should know in advance that it is a Christian, Jewish, Muslim business and use your common sense about what you want them to do. your Jewish part theme shop might not want to do your hitler themed party whereas the Muslim owned one probably wouldn't have an issue.


Right, the ******* are mad for Hitler. Mad for him
 

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