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How about a list.

Can we start with the US invasion of Grenada in 1983 ?

http://www.onwar.com/aced/data/golf/grenada1983.htm

They didn't even tell Thatcher in advance and she considered it British territory. It nearly started World War III as there were furious telecommunications between the US and UK at the same time as a very large military nuclear exercise (brinkmanship / war prep against the USSR ) was going on.
 


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US Invasions .

How about a list.

Heres a list from Yahoo answers ( Although I cant quite recall the 1973 Invasion of Australia just yet):

Can you guess haw many countries the US has invaded before opening my question? - Yahoo! UK & Ireland Answers
1, China 1945 – 1960s
2, Italy 1947 – 1948
3, Greece 1947 – 19050
4, The Philippines 1940s & 1950s
5, Korea 1945 – 1953
6, Albania 1949 -1953
7, Eastern Europe 1948 -1956
8, Germany 1940s
9, Iran 1953
10, Guatemala 1953 – 1954
11, Costa Rica Mid 1950s
12, Syria 1956 – 1957
13, Indonesia 1957 -1958
14, Western Europe 1950s & 1960s
15, British Guyana 1963 – 1954
16, Soviet Union 1950s & 1960s
17, Italy 1950 – 1970s
18, Vietnam 1950 – 1973
19, Cambodia 1955 – 1973
20, Laos 1957 – 1973
21, Haiti 1959 – 1963
22, Guatemala 1960
23, France/Algeria 1960s
24, Ecuador 1960-1963
25, The Congo 1960 – 1964
26, Brazil 1961 – 1964
27, Peru 1960 – 1965
28, Dominion Republic 1960 – 1966
29, Cuba 1959 – 1980s
30, Indonesia 1965
31, Ghana 1966
32, Uruguay 1964 – 1970
33, Chile 1964 – 1973
34, Greece 1964 – 1974
35, Bolivia 1964 – 1975
36, Guatemala 1962 - 1980
37, Costa Rica 1970 -1971
38, Iraq 1972 – 1975
39, Australia 1973 – 1975
40, Angola 1975 – 1980s
41, Zaire 1975 – 1978
42, Jamaica 1976 – 1980
43, Seychelles 1979 – 1981
44, Grenada 1979 – 1984
45, Morocco 1983
46, Suriname 1982 – 1984
47, Libya 1981 – 1989
48, Nicaragua 1981 -1990
49, Panama 1969 – 1991
50, Bulgaria 1990
51, Iraq 1990 – 1991
52, Afghanistan 1979 – 1992
53, El Salvador 1980 – 1994
54, Haiti 1986 – 1994
54, Yugoslavia 1999
55, Afghanistan 2002 and still there for the opium
56, Iraq 2003 and still there for the oil.
 

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Number 16 looks like it must have been kept out of the papers....
 

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Here is one list:

Guatemala, twice No
Cuba
Dominican Republic
Grenada
Korea Un mandated invasion for which the Koreans in the South are grateful
Lebanon No
Vietnam
Laos They bombed it wrong in itself but not an invasion
Cambodia As above
Iran, twice No
Libya, thrice No
Panama
Iraq, twice Once
Somali Humanitarian aid again backed by the UN
Yugoslavia No
Bosnia
Kosovo Bosnia and Kossovo were to protect people there are end the war
Afghanistan UN backed
Philippines
Honduras
Nicaragua They backed the Contras they didn't invade


How many countries has the usa invaded since ww2? - Yahoo! Answers
So you are talking crap. You need help from repeating tinfoil hat talking points.
 

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Heres a list from Yahoo answers ( Although I cant quite recall the 1973 Invasion of Australia just yet):

Can you guess haw many countries the US has invaded before opening my question? - Yahoo! UK & Ireland Answers
1, China 1945 – 1960s
2, Italy 1947 – 1948
3, Greece 1947 – 19050
4, The Philippines 1940s & 1950s
5, Korea 1945 – 1953
6, Albania 1949 -1953
7, Eastern Europe 1948 -1956
8, Germany 1940s
9, Iran 1953
10, Guatemala 1953 – 1954
11, Costa Rica Mid 1950s
12, Syria 1956 – 1957
13, Indonesia 1957 -1958
14, Western Europe 1950s & 1960s
15, British Guyana 1963 – 1954
16, Soviet Union 1950s & 1960s
17, Italy 1950 – 1970s
18, Vietnam 1950 – 1973
19, Cambodia 1955 – 1973
20, Laos 1957 – 1973
21, Haiti 1959 – 1963
22, Guatemala 1960
23, France/Algeria 1960s
24, Ecuador 1960-1963
25, The Congo 1960 – 1964
26, Brazil 1961 – 1964
27, Peru 1960 – 1965
28, Dominion Republic 1960 – 1966
29, Cuba 1959 – 1980s
30, Indonesia 1965
31, Ghana 1966
32, Uruguay 1964 – 1970
33, Chile 1964 – 1973
34, Greece 1964 – 1974
35, Bolivia 1964 – 1975
36, Guatemala 1962 - 1980
37, Costa Rica 1970 -1971
38, Iraq 1972 – 1975
39, Australia 1973 – 1975
40, Angola 1975 – 1980s
41, Zaire 1975 – 1978
42, Jamaica 1976 – 1980
43, Seychelles 1979 – 1981
44, Grenada 1979 – 1984
45, Morocco 1983
46, Suriname 1982 – 1984
47, Libya 1981 – 1989
48, Nicaragua 1981 -1990
49, Panama 1969 – 1991
50, Bulgaria 1990
51, Iraq 1990 – 1991
52, Afghanistan 1979 – 1992
53, El Salvador 1980 – 1994
54, Haiti 1986 – 1994
54, Yugoslavia 1999
55, Afghanistan 2002 and still there for the opium
56, Iraq 2003 and still there for the oil.
Jesus I didn't see this list. Normal sane posters will look at some of the countries (Australis, Western Europe, Brazil etc) and see the paranoid anti-American crackpots for what they are.
 

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Why don't we restrict it to actual US attacks with bombings as an appendix. A list of examples of subversion and interference in elections would make too long a thread.

Personally, I think that whether it's UN backed or not is hardly the point.

So - I have the following confirmed invastions - Grenada, Afghanistan, Vietnam, Cuba, Iraq...

Any more ?
 

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Sowing mines in their harbours is not an invasion if by invasion is meant boots on the ground I guess. It sure is an invasion of their sovereign territory in any normal understanding of that term though.
 

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Personally, I think that whether it's UN backed or not is hardly the point.

So - I have the following confirmed invastions - Grenada, Afghanistan, Vietnam, Cuba, Iraq...

Any more ?
It is too the point. I am no fan of the UN but its the only show in town when it comes to being an international policeman. When all 5 members of the UN sanction an invasion the regime concerned must be really outside the pale if Russia and China don't like it so the US in these cases have law and morality on their side.
 

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Yes they did. But they didn't invade.

I think it's fair to call any counter-insurgency attack an invasion. The US certainly did invade Nicaragua through the Contra Counter-insurgency and counter insurgency has been the invasive method of preference for extending US power in South and Central America.

Just cant quite remember the Invasion of Australia. :?
 

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I'll be fair: the figure of 72 countries invaded or attacked by the US since 1945 I got from documentary maker John Pilger.
 

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I think it's fair to call any counter-insurgency attack an invasion. The US certainly did invade Nicaragua through the Contra Counter-insurgency and counter insurgency has been the invasive method of preference for extending US power in South and Central America.

Just cant quite remember the Invasion of Australia. :?

The removal of Gough Whitlam's socialist government by order of the Governor General is sometimes referred to as a coup. It was supported by the US.

There was a thread here yesterday on this.
 

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Here's a list I found. It doesn't include attacks in Pakistan or the CIA-backed coup which briefly overthrew Chavez.

1946 Iran Troops deployed in northern province.

1946-1949 China Major US army presence of about 100,000 troops, fighting, training and advising local combatants.

1947-1949 Greece US forces wage a 3-year counterinsurgency campaign.

1948 Italy Heavy CIA involvement in national elections.

1948-1954 Philippines Commando operations, "secret" CIA war.

1950-1953 Korea Major forces engaged in war in Korean peninsula.

1953 Iran CIA overthrows government of Prime Minister Mohammed Mossadegh.

1954 Vietnam Financial and materiel support for colonial French military operations, leads eventually to direct US military involvement.

1954 Guatemala CIA overthrows the government of President Jacobo Arbenz Guzman.

1958 Lebanon US marines and army units totaling 14,000 land.

1958 Panama Clashes between US forces in Canal Zone and local citizens.

1959 Haiti Marines land.

1960 Congo CIA-backed overthrow and assassination of Prime Minister Patrice Lumumba.

1960-1964 Vietnam Gradual introduction of military advisors and special forces.

1961 Cuba CIA-backed Bay of Pigs invasion.

1962 Cuba Nuclear threat and naval blockade.

1962 Laos CIA-backed military coup.

1963 Ecuador CIA backs military overthrow of President Jose Maria Valesco Ibarra.

1964 Panama Clashes between US forces in Canal Zone and local citizens.

1964 Brazil CIA-backed military coup overthrows the government of Joao Goulart and Gen. Castello Branco takes power.

1965-1975 Vietnam Large commitment of military forces, including air, naval and ground units numbering up to 500,000+ troops. Full-scale war, lasting for ten years.

1965 Indonesia CIA-backed army coup overthrows President Sukarno and brings Gen. Suharto to power.

1965 Congo CIA backed military coup overthrows President Joseph Kasavubu and brings Joseph Mobutu to power.

1965 Dominican Republic 23,000 troops land.

1965-1973 Laos Bombing campaign begin, lasting eight years.

1966 Ghana CIA-backed military coup ousts President Kwame Nkrumah.

1966-1967 Guatemala Extensive counter-insurgency operation.

1969-1975 Cambodia CIA supports military coup against Prince Sihanouk, bringing Lon Nol to power. Intensive bombing for seven years along border with Vietnam.

1970 Oman Counter-insurgency operation, including coordination with Iranian marine invasion.

1971-1973 Laos Invasion by US and South Vietnames forces.

1973 Chile CIA-backed military coup ousts government of President Salvador Allende. Gen. Augusto Pinochet comes to power.

1975 Cambodia Marines land, engage in combat with government forces.

1976-1992 Angola Military and CIA operations.

1980 Iran Special operations units land in Iranian desert. Helicopter malfunction leads to aborting of planned raid.

1981 Libya Naval jets shoot down two Libyan jets in maneuvers over the Mediterranean.

1981-1992 El Salvador CIA and special forces begin a long counterinsurgency campaign.

1981-1990 Nicaragua CIA directs exile "Contra" operations. US air units drop sea mines in harbors.

1982-1984 Lebanon Marines land and naval forces fire on local combatants.

1983 Grenada Military forces invade Grenada.

1983-1989 Honduras Large program of military assistance aimed at conflict in Nicaragua.

1984 Iran Two Iranian jets shot down over the Persian Gulf.

1986 Libya US aircraft bomb the cities of Tripoli and Benghazi, including direct strikes at the official residence of President Muamar al Qadaffi.

1986 Bolivia Special Forces units engage in counter-insurgency.

1987-1988 Iran Naval forces block Iranian shipping. Civilian airliner shot down by missile cruiser.

1989 Libya Naval aircraft shoot down two Libyan jets over Gulf of Sidra.

1989 Philippines CIA and Special Forces involved in counterinsurgency.

1989-1990 Panama 27,000 troops as well as naval and air power used to overthrow government of President Noriega.

1990 Liberia Troops deployed.

1990-1991 Iraq Major military operation, including naval blockade, air strikes; large number of troops attack Iraqi forces in occupied Kuwait.

1991-2003 Iraq Control of Iraqi airspace in north and south of the country with periodic attacks on air and ground targets.

1991 Haiti CIA-backed military coup ousts President Jean-Bertrand Aristide.

1992-1994 Somalia Special operations forces intervene.

1992-1994 Yugoslavia Major role in NATO blockade of Serbia and Montenegro.

1993-1995 Bosnia Active military involvement with air and ground forces.

1994-1996 Haiti Troops depose military rulers and restore President Jean-Bertrand Aristide to office.

1995 Croatia Krajina Serb airfields attacked.

1996-1997 Zaire (Congo) Marines involved in operations in eastern region of the country.

1997 Liberia Troops deployed.

1998 Sudan Air strikes destroy country's major pharmaceutical plant.

1998 Afghanistan Attack on targets in the country.

1998 Iraq Four days of intensive air and missile strikes.

1999 Yugoslavia Major involvement in NATO air strikes.

2001 Macedonia NATO troops shift and partially disarm Albanian rebels.

2001 Afghanistan Air attacks and ground operations oust Taliban government and install a new regime.

2003 Iraq Invasion with large ground, air and naval forces ousts government of Saddam Hussein and establishes new government.

2003-present Iraq Occupation force of 150,000 troops in protracted counter-insurgency war

2004 Haiti Marines land. CIA-backed forces overthrow President Jean-Bertrand Aristide.

US Interventions
 


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