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Highest Interpol alert for Irish Muslim Al-Qadea leader


kerrynorth

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According to tomorrow's SBP Interpol have issued their highest 'red notice' alert against an Irish passport holder. He is a South Dublin Muslim businessman and 'charity fundraiser' Ibrahim Buisir. Libyan born Buisir is wanted for extradition by Libya. He is described as a leader and funder of a European Al-Qaeda cell and as prominent in the Irish Islamic Foundation.
 


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Why doesn't this surprise me :roll:
 

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Any indication as to how long Buisir has been operating out of Ireland? I assume he must be here a while if he is an Irish passport holder.
 

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A_man_about_a_dog said:
Any indication as to how long Buisir has been operating out of Ireland? I assume he must be here a while if he is an Irish passport holder.
What was he 'operating'? Has he been charged and found guilty of any wrong doing?
If he has an Irish passport he is an Irish citizen.
 

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hopi watcher said:
[quote="A_man_about_a_dog":3clarg5m]Any indication as to how long Buisir has been operating out of Ireland? I assume he must be here a while if he is an Irish passport holder.
What was he 'operating'? Has he been charged and found guilty of any wrong doing?
If he has an Irish passport he is an Irish citizen.[/quote:3clarg5m]

I take it you missed the bit in the OP where it said, "He is described as a leader and funder of a European Al-Qaeda cell and as prominent in the Irish Islamic Foundation."

So, he has been 'operating' out of Ireland. Whether these operations have been legal or illegal has still to be decided. Either way, they can still be described as 'operations'.
 

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hopi watcher said:
[quote="A_man_about_a_dog":380c9bac]Any indication as to how long Buisir has been operating out of Ireland? I assume he must be here a while if he is an Irish passport holder.
What was he 'operating'? Has he been charged and found guilty of any wrong doing?
If he has an Irish passport he is an Irish citizen.[/quote:380c9bac]
I'd like to innocently suggest that the 'operations' referred to are his business and charity fundraising efforts. Somehow I doubt that's what was meant, though.
 

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FutureTaoiseach said:
He should be deported.
On what basis?

What evidence is there that he has been doing anything illegal and that these claims are true?

Is he an Irish Citizen?
 

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FamilyGuy said:
FutureTaoiseach said:
He should be deported.
On what basis?

What evidence is there that he has been doing anything illegal and that these claims are true?

Is he an Irish Citizen?
If he is guilty then he should be deported and his citizenship (if he has it) revoked.
 

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FutureTaoiseach said:
FamilyGuy said:
FutureTaoiseach said:
He should be deported.
On what basis?

What evidence is there that he has been doing anything illegal and that these claims are true?

Is he an Irish Citizen?
If he is guilty then he should be deported and his citizenship (if he has it) revoked.

Thats different to what you originally said
 

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FutureTaoiseach said:
FamilyGuy said:
FutureTaoiseach said:
He should be deported.
On what basis?

What evidence is there that he has been doing anything illegal and that these claims are true?

Is he an Irish Citizen?
If he is guilty then he should be deported and his citizenship (if he has it) revoked.
If he has a passport, he is an Irish citizen. So when we find him guilty to where do you suggest we deport him to.
 

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Al Qaeda is made up, I wonder why they really wanted to lock this guy up. Maybe they're just testing the waters.
 

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hopi watcher said:
If he has a passport, he is an Irish citizen. So when we find him guilty to where do you suggest we deport him to.
That is quite simple. IF he is found guilty, as his citizenship is by naturalisation, we revoke his citizenship and deport him to the country from whence he came.

Just because someone has been granted citizenshop by naturalisation does not mean it can't be revoked if they prove themselves unworthy of holding it.
 

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Article from The Telegraph, apparently he was arrested in 2001...

Also more on him here.. Have no idea how true any of it is..

Re 5, a naturalised Irish citizen with 5 children, here for some 25 years, Ibrahim Buisir, balding, neatly- bearded, and bespectacled, fluent in English, was identified as a major player. He has worked here as a slaughter-house operative and as a journalist. He heads an NGO with some 40 offices, "Islamic-African Relief Agency", one in Dublin, and linked to "Mercy International", and to the "MK" [Maktab has had its US assetts frozen]. He has contacts with Jihadi figures across Europe, such as Spain, Italy, Germany, as well as [since 1994-5] with East African Jihadi elements, including OBL's private secretary, Wadi el-Haj. 224 were murdered in the Embassy bombings by Al-Qaida elements.
Jack Cloonan, ex-FBI [1976-2002] came to Dublin to confer with his Irish colleagues on the common Jihadi threat. Buisir was quoted as using 15 Bank Accounts for his operations. Our Garda [police] questioned Buisir for 3 days in their South Inner City "A" District HQ in Kevin Street, but he has not been charged. He is said to be under physical and electronic surveillance by our Garda Special Branch.


Sunday Business Post on the recent warant..
 

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Aindriu said:
hopi watcher said:
If he has a passport, he is an Irish citizen. So when we find him guilty to where do you suggest we deport him to.
That is quite simple. IF he is found guilty, as his citizenship is by naturalisation, we revoke his citizenship and deport him to the country from whence he came.

Just because someone has been granted citizenshop by naturalisation does not mean it can't be revoked if they prove themselves unworthy of holding it.
Now that we have established that he may be entirely innocent and this stuff is most likely the speculation of those that revel in scaremongering, we can look at the 'deportation' suggestion should be found guilty of something or other. Is this a common punishment or is it just thought up for this particular person? And again, to where would he be deported to? The country of his birth? And if they refuse to accept him? The moon perhaps.
 

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This guy should be investigated, kept under scrutiny and if any links are found his citizenship revoked and deported from the country
 

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bluemajor said:
This guy should be investigated, kept under scrutiny and if any links are found his citizenship revoked and deported from the country
Don't you mean found guilty of crime? Or have we a different level of justice for foreign born nationals?
 

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hopi watcher said:
[quote="AindriuThat is quite simple. IF he is found guilty, as his citizenship is by naturalisation, we revoke his citizenship and deport him to the country from whence he came.

Just because someone has been granted citizenshop by naturalisation does not mean it can't be revoked if they prove themselves unworthy of holding it.
Now that we have established that he may be entirely innocent and this stuff is most likely the speculation of those that revel in scaremongering, we can look at the 'deportation' suggestion should be found guilty of something or other. Is this a common punishment or is it just thought up for this particular person? And again, to where would he be deported to? The country of his birth? And if they refuse to accept him? The moon perhaps.[/quote]
Are you suggesting that we retain all criminals etc convicted here if they are not natural born Irish? That we deport no-one, ever? What a ridiculous idea. If someone comes here and commits a serious crime or terrorist act they should be deported to whence they came as soon as their full sentence is served.
 

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Aindriu said:
hopi watcher said:
[quote="AindriuThat is quite simple. IF he is found guilty, as his citizenship is by naturalisation, we revoke his citizenship and deport him to the country from whence he came.

Just because someone has been granted citizenshop by naturalisation does not mean it can't be revoked if they prove themselves unworthy of holding it.
Now that we have established that he may be entirely innocent and this stuff is most likely the speculation of those that revel in scaremongering, we can look at the 'deportation' suggestion should be found guilty of something or other. Is this a common punishment or is it just thought up for this particular person? And again, to where would he be deported to? The country of his birth? And if they refuse to accept him? The moon perhaps.
"Are you suggesting that we retain all criminals etc convicted here if they are not natural born Irish? "

I'm asking have we a choice given that we have confered citizenship.

"That we deport no-one, ever? What a ridiculous idea"

No one made such a statement, you are beginning to rant.

" If someone comes here and commits a serious crime or terrorist act they should be deported to whence they came as soon as their full sentence is served."

And if the country of their birth refuses to accept them?

What do you think was the purpose of opening this thread?
 

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Hopi-watcher, I take it that you are aware the the US can and do revoke citizenship where it has been granted by naturalisation? They also deport people who have committed serious crimes even where those people have become US citizens through naturalisation.

As to your question about what we do if the birth country won't accept them, how is that our problem? They commit a serious crime and we are suddenly supposed to worry about their welfare?
 

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