Historic Predictions of the Irish Catholic Right

Buchaill Dana

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In the context of the current poliical strategy of the retain movements being to lie, lie and lie again, let's remind ourselves of this fine tradition.

- marraige equality would see the banning of mothers day.
- hello divorce, goodby daddy. We have the lowest rates in Europe.
- children's rights. The statewould d confiscate children.

They are the obvious hysterical claims of the same political tradition out doing themselves this time. Any others for the list? What were the objections to tampons, corsets and equal pay for women?
 


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In the context of the current poliical strategy of the retain movements being to lie, lie and lie again, let's remind ourselves of this fine tradition.

- marraige equality would see the banning of mothers day.
- hello divorce, goodby daddy. We have the lowest rates in Europe.
- children's rights. The statewould d confiscate children.

They are the obvious hysterical claims of the same political tradition out doing themselves this time. Any others for the list? What were the objections to tampons, corsets and equal pay for women?
Consult your local Parish Priest and he will go into it with you.....:cool:
 

Buchaill Dana

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The church actually wanted women banned from playing in Croke Park?

They don't actually say why McQuaid objected to tampons...

We should laugh at this, but some of the claims today are more ridiculous.
 

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Compulsory reporting of Child Abuse: priests couldn’t hear confession.
Marriage Equality: churches forced to marry same sex couples.
Marriage Equality: forced adoptions.
 

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The church wanted women banned from playing in Broke Park?

They don't actually say why McQuaid objected to tampons...

We should laugh at this, but some of the claims today are more ridiculous.
If you read the link I posted, it was because he took the advice of a loony doctor who believed that tampax held "moral dangers" for unmarried persons. In other words they should keep their fingers away from that part of the female anatomy and leave it to the priest.

The bit about hockey parturition is truly priceless though.
 

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Another pointless thread.
 

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The most obvious one for me was every prediction that anything other than a total ban on abortion would lead to 'abortion on demand' - hence the pro-life lobby's hysterical opposition to the 2013 Act and the X case ruling, or indeed any proposals to deal with rape, threats to the mother's health or fatal foetal abnormality (which apparently doesn't exist, according to them).

The irony is that having taken this absolutist Canute-like stance for nearly 4 decades, and partly because of that stance, the pro-lifers may now end up with almost exactly what they warned about all along. More restrictive abortion provisions, if introduced some years ago, might have actually dealt with the more extreme results of the Eighth Amendment and reduced the political pressure to repeal it completely.
 
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The most obvious one for me was every prediction that anything other than a total ban on abortion would lead to 'abortion on demand' - hence the pro-life lobby's hysterical opposition to the 2013 Act and the X case ruling, or indeed any proposals to deal with rape, threats to the mother's health or fatal foetal abnormality (which apparently doesn't exist, according to them).

The irony is that having taken this absolutist Canute-like stance for nearly 4 decades, and partly because of that stance, the pro-lifers may now end up with almost exactly what they warned about all along. More restrictive abortion provisions, if introduced some years ago, might have actually dealt with the more extreme results of the Eighth Amendment and reduced the political pressure to repeal it completely.
Pro choice have consistently lobbied for a complete repeal.

They merely would have continued lobbying against an amendment of the 8th amendment.
 

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Pro choice have consistently lobbied for a complete repeal.

They merely would have continued lobbying against an amendment of the 8th amendment.
I'm not sure that is correct. If a realistic middle ground was found it would be a different debate.

But we are talking about outlandish and amusing previous predictions of your team here.
 

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I like the Longford crowd's contention that when the 8th is Repealed the liberals will be looking for Repeal of 2nd and the 5th.

I dunno why they think anyone much objects to the 2nd these days and surely repeal of the 5th would suit them?petunia
 
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I'm not sure that is correct. If a realistic middle ground was found it would be a different debate.

But we are talking about outlandish and amusing previous predictions of your team here.
It's correct.

Pro-abortionists won't settle for anything less than repeal.

That's what brought us to this point.
 

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It's correct.

Pro-abortionists won't settle for anything less than repeal.

That's what brought us to this point.
Then open a thread on it. This is about the historical legacy of lies, hysteria and scaremongering from a political tradition that's at it again.
 

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In the context of the current poliical strategy of the retain movements being to lie, lie and lie again, let's remind ourselves of this fine tradition.

- marraige equality would see the banning of mothers day.
- hello divorce, goodby daddy. We have the lowest rates in Europe.
- children's rights. The statewould d confiscate children.

They are the obvious hysterical claims of the same political tradition out doing themselves this time. Any others for the list? What were the objections to tampons, corsets and equal pay for women?
You might enjoy this blog
An Overview of Contraception in Ireland: the past, the present and the Papal influence | The Circular

"As the Catholic Church and the government were at one time nearly indistinguishable, relevant laws and policies in Ireland have historically been guided by the Church’s motives of enforcing sexual morality within the State. For instance, the papal response to the initial ‘condom boom’ in the early 1900’s was to condemn those who intentionally prevented conception, as outlined in the 1930 Casti connubii. This concept can be traced back to Saint Aquinas who, sometime between 1245 and 1274 AD, declared that masturbation was a greater sin than rape, for at least the latter could result in conception. By 1946, the sale of contraceptives – which, at the time, were condoms – was successfully criminalised in Ireland.

In 1963 the contraceptive pill was introduced in Ireland (12 years after its development), as a ‘menstrual cycle regulator.’ As with condoms, the Church did not approve of the recreational sex afforded by the pill and, by 1968, Pope Paul VI issued the Humanae vitae which “decreed that artificial contraception in all forms was immoral [and] Catholics [were] obliged not to use artificial contraception.”

 
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Then open a thread on it. This is about the historical legacy of lies, hysteria and scaremongering from a political tradition that's at it again.
There's loads of threads on abortion, just like there's loads of threads on the RCC, which repeat ad nauseam the hysteria, that you're hysterical about.
 


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