Holy Fleggers! Flags Forced Into RCC...

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A rather unholy row has erupted over paramilitary flegs being forced into a RCC by republicans...

IRSP has said it will continue to “force” flags into the Catholic Church after the coffin of one of its members was brought inside a church draped in the starry plough.

The IRSP said it forced the flags into the church on Saturday. Their statement read: “The Catholic hierarchy refused to engage with the family in its time of need. Facing up to this arrogance, activist Ward’s family and comrades made sure his final wishes were adhered to. His coffin was draped with the flags of the republic within the church.”

“Never again will the Irish Republican Socialist Movement be told what to do by a corrupt Catholic institution responsible for so much suffering on this Island. “The flags of the republic will drape our members coffins when and where we see fit.”


the Catholic Church said: “By prior agreement with the family of the deceased, a large white pall was placed over to completely cover the coffin. The two flags, which had been placed on it by the family, were completely covered by the pall throughout the funeral liturgy.

Read more at: IRSP vow to

As the RCC have an ongoing ban on paramilitary trappings at funerals this outrageous behavior merely confirms many republicans inability to recognise anyone's rights, but their own. Surely if one decides to use churches facilities one should abide by the guidelines...
 


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A rather unholy row has erupted over paramilitary flegs being forced into a RCC by republicans...

IRSP has said it will continue to “force” flags into the Catholic Church after the coffin of one of its members was brought inside a church draped in the starry plough.

The IRSP said it forced the flags into the church on Saturday. Their statement read: “The Catholic hierarchy refused to engage with the family in its time of need. Facing up to this arrogance, activist Ward’s family and comrades made sure his final wishes were adhered to. His coffin was draped with the flags of the republic within the church.”

“Never again will the Irish Republican Socialist Movement be told what to do by a corrupt Catholic institution responsible for so much suffering on this Island. “The flags of the republic will drape our members coffins when and where we see fit.”


the Catholic Church said: “By prior agreement with the family of the deceased, a large white pall was placed over to completely cover the coffin. The two flags, which had been placed on it by the family, were completely covered by the pall throughout the funeral liturgy.

Read more at: IRSP vow to

As the RCC have an ongoing ban on paramilitary trappings at funerals this outrageous behavior merely confirms many republicans inability to recognise anyone's rights, but their own. Surely if one decides to use churches facilities one should abide by the guidelines...
There has been a ban on flegs in churches since the eighties afaik. Right decision by the church.
 

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A rather unholy row has erupted over paramilitary flegs being forced into a RCC by republicans...

IRSP has said it will continue to “force” flags into the Catholic Church after the coffin of one of its members was brought inside a church draped in the starry plough.

The IRSP said it forced the flags into the church on Saturday. Their statement read: “The Catholic hierarchy refused to engage with the family in its time of need. Facing up to this arrogance, activist Ward’s family and comrades made sure his final wishes were adhered to. His coffin was draped with the flags of the republic within the church.”

“Never again will the Irish Republican Socialist Movement be told what to do by a corrupt Catholic institution responsible for so much suffering on this Island. “The flags of the republic will drape our members coffins when and where we see fit.”


the Catholic Church said: “By prior agreement with the family of the deceased, a large white pall was placed over to completely cover the coffin. The two flags, which had been placed on it by the family, were completely covered by the pall throughout the funeral liturgy.

Read more at: IRSP vow to

As the RCC have an ongoing ban on paramilitary trappings at funerals this outrageous behavior merely confirms many republicans inability to recognise anyone's rights, but their own. Surely if one decides to use churches facilities one should abide by the guidelines...
I wouldn't describe the Starry Plough as a 'paramilitary trapping'

- its the Flag of the Irish Labour Movement IIRC
 

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There has been a ban on flegs in churches since the eighties afaik. Right decision by the church.
Indeed but wan wonders when the white fleg was drapped over the other two? As ye know displaying flegs at churches tis a difficult narrative...
 

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There has been a ban on flegs in churches since the eighties afaik. Right decision by the church.
There was a tricolour on Martin MGuinness' coffin in Long Tower church which is where the firing of shots in the church grounds lead to the ban around 1985.
 

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I wouldn't describe the Starry Plough as a 'paramilitary trapping'

- its the Flag of the Irish Labour Movement IIRC
If ye can find any usage of the starry plough none paramilitary linked in a N.I situation, moi might consider yer point, but until then jog on mexicant...
 

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There was a tricolour on Martin MGuinness' coffin in Long Tower church which is where the firing of shots in the church grounds lead to the ban around 1985.
Any comment on a fleg in the church without the churches approval...
 

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Indeed but wan wonders when the white fleg was drapped over the other two? As ye know displaying flegs at churches tis a difficult narrative...
There's nothing difficult about it. If you profess to be a christian (of any variety, and I stress here that I don't profess such a thing), then there's no place for flegs in a church at all, at all.
 

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There's nothing difficult about it. If you profess to be a christian (of any variety, and I stress here that I don't profess such a thing), then there's no place for flegs in a church at all, at all.
So ye would ban all flegs from churches?
 

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There was a tricolour on Martin MGuinness' coffin in Long Tower church which is where the firing of shots in the church grounds lead to the ban around 1985.
But notably, there wasn't a beret and gloves. MMG's funeral was essentially a state funeral, but I'd have been happier if the flag was placed on the coffin outside of the church. And the plough ain't an official flag, either, but that's beside the point.
 

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You'd think God if 'It " existed would have stopped them coming into the Church .

But as this particularly Sky Fairy does not exist then thats very unlikely .
 

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Yep, every single one of them, unless they are somehow church related (which I can't envisage other than a papal visit)
What about being really radical here and letting the churches decide for themselves...
 

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If ye can find any usage of the starry plough none paramilitary linked in a N.I situation, moi might consider yer point, but until then jog on mexicant...
If you want I can call you a 'Hun'

- if that makes you feel any better?

But it doesn't exactly get us anywhere
 

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Any comment on a fleg in the church without the churches approval...
The church came to an agreement with the family, otherwise known as aproval, don't you even read your own links?
 

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If you want I can call you a 'Hun'

- if that makes you feel any better?

But it doesn't exactly get us anywhere
I don't like saying this but the moral trash you are replying to is basically correct about the fact that in the North it is associated primarily with the INLA who were far from tribalist than the Provies ever were.

As regards in the story in the OP I guess we should be glad that something so minor as this is what passes for news in Ulster these days.
 

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But notably, there wasn't a beret and gloves. MMG's funeral was essentially a state funeral, but I'd have been happier if the flag was placed on the coffin outside of the church. And the plough ain't an official flag, either, but that's beside the point.

Rots has insisted the only flag he needs when the time comes is the "Flag of convenience " :shock: lol
 

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If you want I can call you a 'Hun'

- if that makes you feel any better?

But it doesn't exactly get us anywhere
Bigot! Now were's thon link ye big girls blouse...
 


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