Hong Kong protests thread

Ardillaun

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The HK state has used triad gangs to attack protesters, has used undercover cops to provoke violence and have used the riot cops to engage in widespread violence against the protesters.

The protests do not need to engage in indiscriminate violence - there are hundreds of thousands on the streets on a daily basis - the protests have overwhelming social weight. An example - paramedics in the HK hospitals are currently staging a sit-in in the hospitals in protest against police murders of protesters and attempts to arrest protesters attending hospital after assaults by police. This has had a major impact in the police being forced out of the hospitals.

The key at this point is the organised workers - the trade unions in Hong Kong - and the indications are that the rank-and-file trade union members are now putting huge pressure on the trade union leaders to call strikes in support of the protests. This development could well be the key factor in forcing the sacking of Carrie Lam and the abandonment of the extradition law.
Let’s hope you’re right. Xi and his gang are quite capable of North Korean levels of violence.
 


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Pro and anti Hong Kong protesters spread to UK, France, Canada, Australia and the US. Confronted by pro-Beijing counterdemonstrators.


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Pro and anti Hong Kong protesters spread to UK, France, Canada, Australia and the US. Confronted by pro-Beijing counterdemonstrators.


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Pro Beijing protesters should be reminded that they are protesting a government that censors debate and does not allow dissent. In some cases, irrespective of the lies of communist party, they even murder protesters.

With that in mind, they should be forcibly prevented from protesting and have their online accounts blocked, limited and censored.

Its what they want, isn't it?
 

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1.7 million in the streets of Hong Kong yesterday in the poring rain.

While a clampdown by the Chinese state cannot be ruled out - they would face massive opposition within HK if they attempt it. They have been hoping for a decline in the numbers that would facilitate a move against the protests - but there is no sign of any let-up at the moment.
 

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Gardai have been informed of alleged pro China intimidation of pro-Hong Kong activists in Ireland. Claims a Chinese student made death threats against pro Hong Kong protesters here. This kind of thing has already been reported in Australia.

 

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Chinese Military Sends New Troops Into Hong Kong
  • Published Aug. 28, 2019Updated Aug. 29, 2019, 8:28 a.m. ET

    HONG KONG — The Chinese military began sending a new group of troops into Hong Kong on Thursday, a move it described as a normal annual rotation of its garrison in the city, but one that was being closely watched because of the local political turmoil.
The move came hours before two organizers of the protests that have roiled the city said they were attacked, in separate incidents, by men with makeshift weapons, one in a restaurant and the other while giving an interview on a sidewalk. Also Thursday, the police denied a protest group permission to hold another large march through the city this weekend.
Chinese state-run media published photos and video of the troop movement, showing trucks, armored personnel carriers and a ship entering Hong Kong under cover of early-morning darkness.


 

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Major #MeToo demonstration in Hong Kong last nights over police engaging in sexual violence against women during ongoing protests.
 

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Hong Kong leader formally withdraws controversial extradition bill - Reuters

They should recognise the olive branch.

The most important thing now is to get those detained released without liability to future prosecution.

Get your people out of detention. Have an amnesty for the events during the protests. Give and take on this.

Then get legislative reform. The problem of Hong Kong being used as a sanctuary for mainland criminals is a real one.

The crisis occurred because of a poorly managed mechanism for averting this and because there was a lack of credible representation. This created a crisis in legitimacy and trust.

The inelegant decision was made in ignorance of the social landscape without due consultation because of a lack of representation. Additionally the problem was seized upon by certain elements in a clear attempt to dishonourably collapse the one country-two systems agreement.

The population en masse, in a popular revolt, expressed their disquiet at the ominous trend and were right to mobilise. Harmony must be restored.
 

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Additionally the problem was seized upon by certain elements in a clear attempt to dishonourably collapse the one country-two systems agreement.
No one has done more in the last number of years to collapse the one country two systems as well as trust with the government then Xi Jinping and his fellow communist party loyalists. At the end of the day the Hong Kong people are dealing with a fundamentally dishonest illegitimate and authoritarian system in the form of the CCP. What’s even more bizarre is that they still try to sell the one country two system to the Taiwanese while simultaneously and right in front of their eyes undermining and dismantling it in Hong Kong.
 

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I hope the radicals don’t jeopardize the modest gains made. If the unrest continues, Beijing may impose martial law and end Hong Kong as we know it. That may be on Xi’s to do list anyway but nobody should make it any easier for him. Trump has already signaled that Hong Kong is an internal matter for the Chinese to sort out.

Like many countries that accepted large numbers of wealthy Chinese investors, Canada now has a serious problem with a vocal pro-Beijing element in the Chinese community:



At the moment, China is essentially run by the PRC as a criminal enterprise. Ireland has the luxury of learning from such events before it’s too late. China’s rise is the pre-eminent geopolitical challenge of this century. Any country that takes money from the PRC through whatever means will pay a price.
 
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Max Blumenthal
It’s almost like there’s some global network of NATO regime change mascots...

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Hong Kong protest leader Joshua Wong joins Chairman of the White Helmets Raed Al Saleh, Mayor of Kiev Vitali Klitschko, and Mina Ahadi for a photo op at the Bild 100 summer party in Berlin.

(Reuters photos, 9 September 2019) https://t.co/9mXpAhgCaE
 

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Pro-Beijing lawmaker in Hong Kong, stabbed...

 

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Max Blumenthal
It’s almost like there’s some global network of NATO regime change mascots...

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Hong Kong protest leader Joshua Wong joins Chairman of the White Helmets Raed Al Saleh, Mayor of Kiev Vitali Klitschko, and Mina Ahadi for a photo op at the Bild 100 summer party in Berlin.

(Reuters photos, 9 September 2019) Camila on Twitter
Max Blumenthal is an idiot. If you don't want regime change in HK you are idiot as well.
 

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The 70-year-old man who sustained critical head injuries during a clash with protesters in Hong Kong died on Thursday. A day ago, the man was trying to clear the road when someone hit him with a brick. People's Daily, China on Twitter
 

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HK rioters/black terrorsts have been the poster boys of western media and politicians. Both believe in the essence of "democracy", western style, i.e. do what I say otherwise I'll kill you to protect my "democratic rights" which are also my holy "human rights"!

We holy pro-democracy people are not like the communist Chinese, we agree to disagree, Hong Kong style (CNN: HK police dressed in black beat civilians following the order from the mainland Chinese communists.):
We love our boys, the freedom fighters, for their spreading of our "democracy" around the world:
We are holy "pro-democracy protesters", next question:
 
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HK rioters/black terrorsts have been the poster boys of western media and politicians. Both believe in the essence of "democracy", western style, i.e. do what I say otherwise I'll kill you to protect my "democratic rights" which are also my holy "human rights"!
Here's democracy for you!
 

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But will we all boycott chinese goods and list them, like isra'eeli-settler produce?

It seems unlikely. But culturally we have much more in common with HK than with the pallies.
 


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