household goods giant Unilever threatens to pull ads from online platforms which "create division"

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Craigslist and similar are representative of how the nature of advertising has changed and how much of it has shifted online. It is a relatively simple argument in that online advertising is gradually overtaking print advertising and other forms of advertising with more precisely targeted (behavioural targeting) advertising that is generally more economical for the advertisers and more efficient at targeting the users.
Its simple, but wrong. Hence the papers remain full of ads.

You are mixing up me going onto a site that is advertisements and me buying tat on facebook. The latter is not a great investment for FMCG. The pull out supermarket suppliment is.
 


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How is making a decision where you advertise impacting your freedom of speech?
As a joe-soap individual, the decision is miniscule in terms of overall impact on human freedom and society. However, a corporation can have MASSIVE impact. Who are the Kings of Unilever? Who are the men in its boardroom? What are their political affiliations? What matter much much more: your decision, or the decision of Kings? I know it offends the ego to imagine that some men have a greater say that little old you, but there it is.

Again, who are the Kings of Unilever? What are their backgrounds? Will the corporate media ask? These are the all too disturbing questions of this very 'modern' age. Much is unknown is it not?
 

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As a joe-soap individual, the decision is miniscule in terms of overall impact on human freedom and society. However, a corporation can have MASSIVE impact. Who are the Kings of Unilever? What are their political affiliations? What matter much much more: your decision, or the decision of Kings? I know it offends the ego to imagine that some men have a greater say that little old you, but there it is.

Again, who are the Kings of Unilever? What are their political affiliations?
They are a plc. The 'kings' are the shareholders. If they feel management are taking political stances with their money, out they will go.

Not wanting your ad sandwiched between infowars and britain first is not some conspiracy to crush free speech. Its protecting your brand.
 

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Seems to be the norm nowadays on American TV... watch anything and the adverts have a very large bias that if it were the other way around would cause mayhem...But these are the PC times we live in.
Do a Google Images search for "Happy American Couple" (without quotes)
 

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In the Capitalist World all Humans are potential consumers

- anything that turns off customers

- and reduces profits

- is to be Squashed

Capitalism is Colour Blind....:cool:

But it certainly isn't for Free Speech

- at the expense of Profit.
 

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They are a plc. The 'kings' are the shareholders. If they feel management are taking political stances with their money, out they will go.

Not wanting your ad sandwiched between infowars and britain first is not some conspiracy to crush free speech. Its protecting your brand.
Who are the major shareholders? What are their political affiliations? Are the directors and managers of the corporation merely human and therefore capable of manipulating shareholders, deceiving them, etc.? Are the shareholders gods who cannot be deceived? Cannot go astray? Cannot take the company in nefarious directions?

P.s. Try not to be so accusatory and defensive and consider what it is, apparently unquestioningly, you defend.
 

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In a shock move Unilever announce that if you argue against cheap labor you'll need to be demonetized.

I stand with Unilever! Paycheck Progressives take another novel step forward.
 

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They are a plc. The 'kings' are the shareholders. If they feel management are taking political stances with their money, out they will go.

Not wanting your ad sandwiched between infowars and britain first is not some conspiracy to crush free speech. Its protecting your brand.
The chances of Unilever shareholders stepping in to say that site x which argues Immigration is being driven by the interests of big business is low.

Their shareholders will recognize the company is defending it's economic interest.

No more Unilever advertising to appear in the same page as Corbyn from here in presumably.
 

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Who are the major shareholders? What are their political affiliations? Are the directors and managers of the corporation merely human and therefore capable of manipulating shareholders, deceiving them, etc.? Are the shareholders gods who cannot be deceived? Cannot go astray? Cannot take the company in nefarious directions?

P.s. Try not to be so accusatory and defensive and consider what it is, apparently unquestioningly, you defend.
You seem to think it's politics from the perspective of "why can't we all just celebrate each other".

But isn't it really politics from the " they'll keep the minimum wage flat and they don't dare strike" angle.
 

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In the Capitalist World all Humans are potential consumers

- anything that turns off customers

- and reduces profits

- is to be Squashed

Capitalism is Colour Blind....:cool:

But it certainly isn't for Free Speech

- at the expense of Profit.
Sigh. They dont want to be assosciated with filth like you. If they wanted to suppress speech it would be the left they target.
 

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Sigh. They dont want to be assosciated with filth like you. If they wanted to suppress speech it would be the left they target.
Which left?

The left like Corbyn? He got a warm welcome from the establishment media didn't he.

The left like Blair or Martin Schultz or like Brendan Howlin?

Sure are they not already for cheap labor but with a diversity ribbon on top so the stooges will line up to defend it and side with Unilever.

I'm a socialist I stand with Unilever!!

That's the wrong track.
 

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Which left?

The left like Corbyn? He got a warm welcome from the establishment media didn't he.

The left like Blair or Martin Schultz or like Brendan Howlin?

Sure are they not already for cheap labor but with a diversity ribbon on top so the stooges will line up to defend it and side with Unilever.

I'm a socialist I stand with Unilever!!

That's the wrong track.
Oh wow. You picked it up arseways. How surprising.
 

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Who are the major shareholders? What are their political affiliations? Are the directors and managers of the corporation merely human and therefore capable of manipulating shareholders, deceiving them, etc.? Are the shareholders gods who cannot be deceived? Cannot go astray? Cannot take the company in nefarious directions?

P.s. Try not to be so accusatory and defensive and consider what it is, apparently unquestioningly, you defend.
This is tin foil hat nonsense.

Unilever are not using an advertising channel because they claim it hurts their brand, but i suspect that is a screen for the reality that people dont buy toothpaste on facebook.

But taking them at their word, i can fully understand a company not wanting their ad below a gas the jews video and above a hang all muslims one. If this offends your notion of free speech, well tough. Welcome to the real world.
 

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This is tin foil hat nonsense.

Unilever are not using an advertising channel because they claim it hurts their brand, but i suspect that is a screen for the reality that people dont buy toothpaste on facebook.

But taking them at their word, i can fully understand a company not wanting their ad below a gas the jews video and above a hang all muslims one. If this offends your notion of free speech, well tough. Welcome to the real world.
This is all because the alt right hate it when they realise how repellant they are to mainstream opinion. On sites like this and others they are able to fool themselves they have a respectable POV.

Then something always comes along to remind them they give most other people the heeby-jeebies, including business which just wants to make a sale.
 

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Unilever has threatened to withdraw its advertising from online platforms such as Facebook and Google if they fail to protect children, promote hate or create division in society.
So that only leaves them with P.ie and Motherhood&ApplePie.com as outlets for Unilever online ads and I hear there is a scandal about to break at M&AP around child abuse........just saying......
 

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So that only leaves them with P.ie and Motherhood&ApplePie.com as outlets for Unilever online ads and I hear there is a scandal about to break at M&AP around child abuse........just saying......
Why would Unilever want to advertise on Pie? Not many of our posters are terribly interested in personal hygiene...
 

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Oh great. More adverts promoting Normal black people and silly white people.....*sigh*
Says the poster with a mispelled name and a leprechaun showing it's backside. You are "silly white people":roll:
 

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Unilever And The Failure Of Corporate Social Responsibility

Polman is a poster child of a CEO gone rogue.

Since leading the company in 2009, Unilever has suffered financial and public relations damage from Polman’s disastrous leadership.

At the core of Polman’s problem is his eagerness to put superficial feel good policies ahead of sound business decisions and he is not shy about touting his twisted priorities.

In Polman’s world, “as CEO of Unilever, my personal mission is to galvanize our company to be an effective force for good...”

While Polman seeks approval from global elites and basks in the glory of being called a “sustainability evangelist’” and a world saver for his roles in combating climate change and efforts to address social issues, Unilever has gone off the rails...

Last year, Unilever settled with almost 600 workers in India over mercury exposure from a now closed thermometer plant following a 2006 lawsuit over exposure to the toxic element...

It’s time for Unilever shareholders to mimic the anti-establishment trend and oust Polman as CEO and let him play politics on his own dime...​
 


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